rebelrider
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| posted on 23/1/07 at 11:40 PM |
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Shipwreck devon
Well after seeing the pictures in the paper and watching the news I decided to go get myself a new bmw ...lol at 10:30 this mornin i begged the boss
to let me go and have a look after a hour and a half in the car we had to walk 3 miles to get to the beach because of road blocks once we were there
we had to drop down a 10 foot wall to dodge the police fence and marched along the beach. i have never seen anything like it in all my life i felt
like a right gippo until i saw bussiness men in suits routing about in broken glass and carryin master cylinders by the dozen down the beach.
The only thing i wanted was impossible to move the was a massive container full of brand new bmw engines still boxed. as for the gearboxes there was
loads of people with wheel barrows taking them down the beach. all i came away with was a bit of door trim with m3 logo on it just to proove i had
been there. i think i have walked 20 miles today (i hurt).
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graememk
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| posted on 23/1/07 at 11:43 PM |
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i dont understand, if you find it is it yours or is it theft ?
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macnab
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| posted on 23/1/07 at 11:46 PM |
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well guess what.
Your going to have to go back an take some pictures this time...
You go all that way and don't even bring a camera!!
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rebelrider
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| posted on 23/1/07 at 11:50 PM |
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maritine law says finders keepers you have to register what you have found with in 28 days and the owner can claim it back but... 9 times out of ten
they get there insurance money for it and are not bothered about the trashed goods. a container washed up full of new bmw motorbikes £6500 each people
were riding them off the beach and past police but they are powerless to stop you because of the maritine law  and 200 containers and fell over
board so far 40 ish washed up but there is still 2200 on the ship and they think they are all going in so who knows what goin to be in the water in te
next couple of weeks
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rebelrider
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| posted on 23/1/07 at 11:52 PM |
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quote:
well guess what. Your going to have to go back an take some pictures this time...
You go all that way and don't even bring a camera!!
ive got a few on my phone ill upload them tomorrow and post a couple
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Simon
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| posted on 23/1/07 at 11:57 PM |
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I can see a return to the good ole days of piracy - see a container ship coming up the channel, put a couple of holes in it, shove it towards the
beach, and a free for all.
ATB
Simon
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Peteff
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 12:18 AM |
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I've got me a 1,000,000 candle power lamp and a computer chair, I want an assistant to spin me round and we're set up. Anybody in the know
when they're bringing some bikes in worth having, I don't fancy a BMW.
Google says :- Did you mean: maritime law 
[Edited on 24/1/07 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Macbeast
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 06:38 AM |
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If you take something that doesn't belong to you, with the intention of permanently depriving the owner of it, that's theft.
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Humbug
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 07:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
If you take something that doesn't belong to you, with the intention of permanently depriving the owner of it, that's theft.
Rebelrider is right in the case of shipwrecks - you have to register the goods with the Receiver of Wrecks, who notifies the owner, who then has the
options of coming and getting the goods back (but often don't). According to the paper yesterday, this only applies to shipwrecks - if you took
stuff from an overturned lorry, for example, it's theft.
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novacaine
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 07:43 AM |
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why do i have to live so far away from devon! i cant go looting now  lol
matt
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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macnab
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 08:23 AM |
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ive got a few on my phone ill upload them tomorrow and post a couple
Excellent I’d like to see them
[Edited on 24/1/07 by macnab]
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 08:52 AM |
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Also if you take something and with the intent of keeping it and/or don't notify the authorities about what you have taken it is theft...
<rant>
personally I think it is deplorable. - what people are forgetting is that someone has to pay for all these stolen goods. If it is an insurance company
then we all end up paying in next years premiums.
People are also forgetting that some of the 'goods' on that ship were personal belongings, There was a story yesterday about a couple (I
think from sweden) who watched on telly as someone went through their personal container throwing family photos in the sea because they were
worthless.........
What about that small business round the corner from you who is now going to go bust because they lost a shipment of motorbikes?
(remeber the insurance will probably not pay out for a VERY long time.....)
Its a ridiculous situation and should never have been allowed to happen.
</Rant>
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 09:14 AM |
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Well, get a boat and get to the beach, no hasle with wheel barrows or police fences.
I have a boat, but live in belgium
http://www.clubstylus.be
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Johnmor
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 09:41 AM |
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Anarchy
I saw the pictures on the news, and i must admit it reminds me a bit of the looting in New Orleans.
I realise the law may allow collection and recovery of the goods but it does seem to be just a bit much when people are driving hundreds of miles to
take advantage of the situation.
Im not trying to be judgmental and picking up the odd momento is one thing but rummaging through a private transport container or driving a new BMW
off the beach seems a bit much.
When ever there is a loophole in the law, peoples own moral standards seem to go out the window. If that was a ship from company like DHL, would
people rip open the goods addressed to someone else and take them for their own?
I think people feel there is no "victim" in this situation and this gives them the right to take all they can.
How many of them will take goods only for themseves or will they sell them on to make money.
I know I'm being a bit pious and im right up on top of the "high horse" but there you go
Also I'm about 600 miles away so no chance of getting to the beach.
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davidwag
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 09:58 AM |
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Hi,
I only live about 15 miles from the beach where this happened, but haven't even been to look. I might take the kids down to see the ship at the
weekend though.
Some of the tales i've heard from people who have been are a bit scary!. People climbing into half submurged containers with waves crashing over
the top to recover nintendo Wii's that have been floating in the water and have got no english writing on, so may not even work in this country!
And some up to chest high in the water removing the alloy wheels from an up turned frontera.
How some one hasn't died trying to recover something I don't know
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macnab
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 10:35 AM |
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Wow, I’m kind of surprised that the police aren’t there then. They’ll get well criticised if someone is killed…
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DIY Si
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 10:55 AM |
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They can't do anything. You can't stop some one climbing into the sea, since what they're doing isn't illegal. It may be
stupid, but not illegal. That's why they're trying to stop people getting to the beach.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 11:54 AM |
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It's sad how people degenerate into grabbing, thieving pikeys in these situations, desperate to get their hands on whatever they can
BTW, since an official receiver has been nominated it is illegal to remove any goods without registering any items with the authorities, and they have
to surrender the items is asked within 28 days.
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Rek
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 12:39 PM |
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Im wondering when the stuff will start to turn up on Ebay?
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macnab
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 12:42 PM |
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yip maybe the whole ship!!
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Moorron
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| posted on 24/1/07 at 01:12 PM |
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What i dont get is the fact the police couldnt do anything when peeps were riding off with brand new motorbikes??? so they had a bike on the public
highway without tax, mot or even been registered?
i think the reporting is not too accurate
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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