NS Dev
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 09:56 AM |
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car impounded questions?
A couple of questions on behalf of a work colleague.
I work with an indian chap at work, and he shares a lift with another indian fellow who also works at our plant.
Their car was stopped on friday afternoon at a police stop and checkpoint. One of the chaps has a provisional licence and was driving, the other has a
full licence. What they did not realise is that the "supervising driver" must have held a full licence for more than 2 years.
obviously the police took a keen interest in this!
Now I would have thought that if the driver with the full licence took over driving there would be no problem, the driver with the provisional licence
would be fined etc but as it was their car was impounded and towed away.
The full licence holding driver then called the recovery company constantly from 4 until 5 oclock that evening until he assumed they had closed, but
could get no response.
He then called again on Saturday and was then told that there were no collections at the weekend, and that it said that in the small print. He argued
because he had tried calling for a long time the previous day but obviously they denied not answering calls!
He is now being charged £250 for recovery and "storage" charges because the company would not allow collection of the car over the
weekend, personally I think this is a rip off on a grand scale!!! 
I also think that under the circumstances the police had no right to seize the vehicle, but what do those in the know think? (ps the full licence
holding driver does own the car, and all docs were present etc)
[Edited on 29/1/07 by NS Dev]
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trogdor
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 10:02 AM |
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i don't think they could of seized the car, that is only really a fined offence, especially if the guy with the full lience was insured on the
car etc. i guess the policeman was being awkward.
its strange how often this happens to asian people, i have a good friend who is asian and has had probs with people for no real reason too.
[Edited on 29/1/07 by trogdor]
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ned
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 10:24 AM |
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check out the legalities of the police towing the car, pay to get the car back then take the police to the small claims to recover the money?
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 10:34 AM |
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Seems a bit extreme to me.
However only in this fcucked up country could the authorities find room to lock up cars but not criminals. Yet again another way of making the
motorist fund the cuntry.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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02GF74
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 10:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by trogdor
its strange how often this happens to asian people, i have a good friend who is asian and has had probs with people for no real reason too.
hardly strange after having a few dark skinned genetlemen of asian origin running round with rucksacks on the London underground and busses - that
obviously has a knock on effect upon members of the public of similar descitpion.
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daviep
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 11:07 AM |
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Similar thing happened to me.
Car got stolen but was recovered, the police wouldn't let me have it back for nearly a week as they hadn't had time to examine it!!! Then
had to pay £200 pounds to get it back from the recovery company.
Three youths had stolen it and then handed themselves in and told the police where they had left the car.
When I asked the police how I went about reclaiming my money was told I would have to sue the youths personally, but they weren't allowed to
give us their details.
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trogdor
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 01:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by trogdor
its strange how often this happens to asian people, i have a good friend who is asian and has had probs with people for no real reason too.
hardly strange after having a few dark skinned genetlemen of asian origin running round with rucksacks on the London underground and busses - that
obviously has a knock on effect upon members of the public of similar
descitpion.
fair point but the think i was thinking of wasnt becasue of that, as it was to do with parking spaces
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snippy
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 01:36 PM |
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The Police do have the power to seize a car but only on good reason. Those reasons might include no insurance, No Mot, No Tax or the car may have some
defects classed as dangerous such as tyres with insufficient tread etc. Lets be realistic here, they won`t seize a car because of the colour of a
persons skin. The person who had his car seized will have been told the reason for its seizure so I think he`s probably not telling you everything
IMO.
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Fozzie
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 01:46 PM |
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Yep, totally agree snippy!
If a vehicle is seized for any reason, there is so much paper-work that has to go with it (after the event), that you can be sure the officer who
seized it will be answerable to the 'next in line' back at the nick!
If the registered keepers documents were all in order, then I would hazard a guess the car must have had a defect.... 
An MOT only means that when the car was checked, it was roadworthy, but as we all know, things do go wrong/get worn between MOT's.
HTH Fozzie 
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 01:59 PM |
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I'd imagine the reason (reading between the lines is) the driver had no full licence and was co driven by someone with less than 2 years
experience so this would make any insurance invalid (even though the owner driver could have then driven the car legally).
Or as said there's more to it than you've been told.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 29/1/07 at 08:16 PM |
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Coincidental this. I had a very similar case yesterday when I was at work. The police do have the right to seize the car, the law was broken (they do
sound a bit keen though) they probably did it as the full license holder didn't have documents present at the time. As for the impound charges.
Here in Greater Manchester we charge £105 release fee and £12 a day storage if I'm correct but its not too far off if not and yes, same
collection times etc. apply. A genuine mistake but the fact is the rules were broken and you've no excuse as they are freely available,
ignorance is no excuse. We let our 'client' off though.
As for the fact that they were Indians, when paperwork is filled out, on nearly every sheet there is an ethnicity question and the person in
question has to define their own ethnicity and then the officer has to define it as he see's it because you do get people being awkward and
saying they're black/white when they're blatantly not but you do have to record what they actually declare. The police is in such a state
after recent times and occurrences ( brought on by themselves admittedly) that they dare not step a foot out of line on this at present. Which is good
in my opinion.
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