JoelP
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 01:34 PM |
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i believe also that noone yet has mentioned the roundabouts with white lines all the way round, from which you can drive all the way round the outside
lane if you so choose. If you're on the inside you must cross a white line to exit, hence you give way to people already in that lane. However,
entry signage (arrows etc) usually contradicts this, making it a bit foolish to do even if you think you can.
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smart51
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 01:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
Don't see why people in the right lane should have any claim over the middle, as if they wanted to go straight on they shouldn't have
been in the right lane on the approach.
If you're on a dual carriageway with 2 lanes on each side, you can expect to be able to go straight on from the right hand lane.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 02:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
link
mint, it worked.
So there you have a 3 lane entry into a 2 lane roundabout. Whoever designed that should get battered senseless, then left lying on the white line on
the roundabout. 
Regarding craigs problem, id say neither automatically have right of way. Who dares wins
[Edited on 3/8/07 by JoelP]
Joel thats a good one that I hadent thought of negotiated that one on several occasions.
regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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ravingfool
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 02:47 PM |
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LOL JoelP that really is stupid!
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 02:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
If you're on a dual carriageway with 2 lanes on each side, you can expect to be able to go straight on from the right hand lane.
That's a fair point, I usually assume if there's 2-in then there'll be 2-out although it's not always the case. However, if
not they usually give you a warning before the r/about even if you don't lose the lane until the exit (and a mini second lane at the exit that
immediately merges just in case).
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 03:07 PM |
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Rely on natural selection in confusing situations like this..
Fastest accelerating car+heaviest boot=vehicle with clear right of way!
Or for the creationists amongst you;
Best foot forward and trust in The Lord!
Personnally, on this one, I'm with Darwin.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 04:29 PM |
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Originally posted by Fozzie
We shall be making our way back up there on Tuesday.........for a few weeks! 
Now I am jealous, Fozzie!
Just as the weather's decided to be nice too...
Enjoy it!
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Hellfire
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 04:47 PM |
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Where situations like this exist... the general rule of thumb must apply.
If you are crossing any dotted white line you are technically making a dangerous manouvere and you should excercise caution, if a collision occurs as
a result of this manouvere, (generally) you are in the wrong. The person who remains in the unmarked lane has right of way.
As Phil stated - you were both making dangerous manouveres therefore if anything happened, liability would indeed be split 50/50.
EDIT: using indicators is also a Give-Away as Pete suggested... it's only an indication request to make a manouvere not a notice of intent.
Steve
[Edited on 3-8-07 by Hellfire]
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 05:25 PM |
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I have a similar roundabout on the way to work (J5 of the M3 at Hook to those that know the area). Approaching from Farnham is two lane dual
carriageway, on the roundabout is three lanes with 5 exits in total (including coming back from whence you came). Left is M3 South, 2nd exit is dual
carriageway at about 11 O'Clock, 3rd exit is single carriageway about 1 O'Clock and 4th Exit is the sliproad for M3 North.
Almost identical to this layout (on the Highway Code website) but imagine the roundabout has 3 marked
lanes on it, and the road going bottom left to top right is the Motorway running underneath
I arrive at the roundabout from bottom right and want to take the 3rd exit, the vertical one in this diagram. I do as the red car does, take the right
hand lane, then take the middle lane onto the roundabout (left lane should go first exit, middle lane my exit, RH lane takes M3 north IMHO), but loads
of people approach in the left lane then want to take the middle lane on the roundabout, which effectively in their minds means that the left lane
gets the choice of three "lanes" (ie M3 South plus both left and middle lanes on the roundabout), whereas the right lane should only go M3
north.
I had a lively discussion about it at work with a colleague who claims doing this IS correct and Im wrong because the signs dont tell you to get into
a certain lane. His argument is that you don't know the middle roundabout lane is there so you cant know which lane to approach in so can use
the middle lane from either, but his argument (IMHO) doesnt stack up because if there were only two lanes on the roundabout you should still approach
in the right lane to take exit 3 and exit 4, in the left to take exit 1 and two. Also seeing as he does the journey every day like me, I dont think
you can simply claim ignorance every time you approach it!
[Edited on 3/8/07 by ChrisGamlin]
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TGR-ECOSSE
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| posted on 3/8/07 at 07:06 PM |
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I have just spent 3 weeks driving in Italy !!! Roundabouts are a very interesting challenge there where everybody seems to have right of way no matter
what the road markings are 
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Hellfire
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| posted on 4/8/07 at 07:19 PM |
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Chris - if every car used the outer (marked) lane, if there are no steering lanes then the car in the outside lane ALWAYS has right of way
irrespective of whether they are going right, striaght ahead or right.
Steve
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