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Paul TigerB6

posted on 14/4/08 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
Whats education coming to??

Well i knew some universities offer some real mickey mouse "degree" courses but this is really taking the biscuit!! If i did this course i'd be ashamed to call myself a graduate!!!

Mickey Mouse

Now i for one am all for doing away with putting degree students into huge debt but only for "proper" degree courses.

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smart51

posted on 14/4/08 at 08:22 AM Reply With Quote
You're right to say "proper" degree courses. The article refers to "foundation degrees". These are 2 year courses and I guess are broadly equivelent to HNDs. Why they have to call them degrees I don't know because it just devalues the bachelor's degree.

A slight asside, in these days of equality, Shouldn't female students be awarded spinster degrees instead?

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designer

posted on 14/4/08 at 08:47 AM Reply With Quote
The sad thing is that a retired teacher over here keeps telling me that education has never been better in the UK!!!!
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worX

posted on 14/4/08 at 08:53 AM Reply With Quote
It hasn't!
It's just that it was absolutely appalling before!

Steve
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Originally posted by designer
The sad thing is that a retired teacher over here keeps telling me that education has never been better in the UK!!!!







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dhutch

posted on 14/4/08 at 09:03 AM Reply With Quote
The thing is, i think its largly a good idea.
- Give sales people a bit of the background, and the bigger picture, and all that.
- Ditto if you must, giving fast food workers a chance to get some sort of qualifition and understanding beond just being able to flip burgers badly.


However my grip, as a second year mech eng masters student on a year sandwich with an large engineering company , is that rather than come up with a name for them. They have reused names from a higher up leval of qualification.
- Its bad enough that people think im a mechanic. Im now waiting for the time someone compairs that to working for a bed company on day release to a university collage. Haha.

No, i mean, in all honesty its actually a good thing, and i dont have a problem with mechanics, or even people thinking that i am one.

However i do think it is mistleasing and unnessary, and unfair, to be so careless in the naming of such things.
- Ditto calling plumber 'heating engineers' of cause.
- You dont get nurses calling themself 'bloodtest and urine sample' doctors. Often...


Daniel

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02GF74

posted on 14/4/08 at 10:01 AM Reply With Quote
here is how to sell a bed.

shop assistant 1: Can I help you sir.
customer. I'd like to buy a bed.
shop assistant 1: Please go to our furntiure department on the second floor.

customer now on second floor.
shop assistant 2: Can I help you sir?
customer. Yes, I'd like to buy a bed.

shop assistant: Well you've come to the right place. Over there we have a selection of bed, please try them out. But don't make me say matress.


customer after lying on a few beds.

customer. I think I take this one. How much is it?
shop assistant: This one is £ 350, we can do 6 mohtns interest free.
customer. Excellent. I'll take one *

cusotmer fills out paper work and is told that deliver takes 4 to 6 weeks.

Bed sold.

Harly need for any specialist training in my opinion. Talk about dumbing down.

* or more likley customer walks off and buys the bed on the internet.

[Edited on 14/4/08 by 02GF74]






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smart51

posted on 14/4/08 at 10:32 AM Reply With Quote
Perhaps they'll be trained in orthopedics and will give advice on what firmness of matress to sell you. Hmmm. Perhaps a GCSE in selling beds would be enough.
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David Jenkins

posted on 14/4/08 at 10:33 AM Reply With Quote
They'd be better off doing a Ba (or MBa!) in Business Studies - now that IS a hard course, and worth something at the end of it, both for the employer and the student.






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smart51

posted on 14/4/08 at 10:54 AM Reply With Quote
If you had an MBA, you wouldn't take a job selling beds.
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David Jenkins

posted on 14/4/08 at 11:13 AM Reply With Quote
Well, if it was a decent company they'd spend time and money developing their staff, to Ba standard for the better people.

But in this case, I very much doubt it!

[Edited on 14/4/08 by David Jenkins]






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Gav

posted on 14/4/08 at 11:21 AM Reply With Quote
err its not a course on how to sell beds that just the headline, its course on retail managment for mangers....






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David Jenkins

posted on 14/4/08 at 11:26 AM Reply With Quote
Fair comment!

(note to self: read the whole article before spouting off...)








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DIY Si

posted on 14/4/08 at 02:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Fair comment!

(note to self: read the whole article before spouting off...)




What?! And let facts get in the way of a good moan? Shirley not......

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David Jenkins

posted on 14/4/08 at 02:36 PM Reply With Quote
And don't call me Shirley!






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