BenB
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 12:04 PM |
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WTF!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/7360147.stm
I think it's time to leave the country. Does anyone think that this sounds like a recipe for a rip-off??
Council tax bills going up by above inflation every year. Bin collections get switched from weekly to fortnightly then we get fined when the bin is
overloaded!!!
So we're paying more, getting a worse service then being fined when the service blows..... What a bullsh!t country we live in sometimes....
Yet another demonstration of the failure of democratic people-power in the UK!!!! Then again, if the people really held the power we wouldn't be
letting the government bankrupt the country!!! Letting banks privatise their profits whilst nationalising their losses is the worlds worst idea since
putting bonfires out with unleaded.....
It's not like we've got the money to offer as bonds anyway. The only way the BoE can offer this money is by printing it. One instant
recipe for hyper-inflation and a depression that'll make the 30s look like a small-time blip.
If we're really unlucky they'll be political radicalisation after the depression (like 30s Germany) and Max Mosely will come into power
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Time for a valium sandwich....
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wilkingj
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 12:10 PM |
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I believe in Germany they can inspect the rubbish in your bin so they can ascertain if you are re-cycling correctly and fine you if you are not.
Problem is all down to the councils outsourcing (contracting out) the rubbish collection, instead of directly employing the people themselves.
The contracts probably say the bin lids must be closed and the company has the right not to collect if they are not. Hence the council needs to
enforce the terms of their contract with the collector.
Rubbish men wont take all sorts of things these days.
I just wonder what the Tax we pay really covers, except higher wages for the council managers letting the contract.
Only problem is the grass is not usually greener on the other side of the fence... ie by living abroad.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 12:24 PM |
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Just put aside your rubbish for a few months and have a huge fecking fire in the garden, old sofa's and all 
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mookaloid
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 12:30 PM |
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I would have thought the council could have done this better - firstly by issuing a warning to ensure that the offender knew that it was an offense -
I would bet that not many people know that it is. Second in order to ensure that people know, a warning should be printed on the bin - then nobody
would have an excuse.
Just my 2p worth.....
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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smart51
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 12:47 PM |
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You do know that there's an election coming up very soon. It's your chance to be listened to by your councilors. Email the candidates in
your area and get them to make promises. Hold them to them.
Vote for the individual who will do what you want, rather than for your usual party. National politics doesn't apply at local elections but
plenty of people vote as if they do.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 12:50 PM |
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So thats £110 for the on the spot fine, increased to £225 by the magistrates!! Absolute lunacy - especially when some yob would probably get a £60 or
so fine for Drunk n Disorderly or common assault!! Just seems like this country has gone totally mad - fining those who are generally law abiding and
will cough up and giving pitance sentences to those who couldnt give a to$$!! 
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russbost
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 12:56 PM |
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 01:10 PM |
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If local councils persist in this type of lunacy, then I can only see one solution. Find a nice country lay by & trow the black bags out of the
window as you go past!
ATB
Paul
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RK
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 01:11 PM |
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All the extra fees for collection amount to further dumping in public and more isolated private lands. This is the case on Vancouver Island, where I
grew up. Close to nature in most places, but then again sometimes you run into these great big piles of crap left by inconsiderate twits. All
encouraged by extra collection fees and high taxes.
You have to wonder why you pay tax at all, when they can't even collect refuse.
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BenB
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 01:26 PM |
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Fining people who refuse to recycle is one thing (after all it's becoming less socially acceptable not too- I even compost a fair proportion of
my rubbish). But to fine those who have "too much" rubbish! Crazy. If that bloke rung up the council and asked for a special collection to
avoid an overflowing bin do you reckon they would have done it for free? Or charged him for the privelage...
It'll just encourage people to dump their rubbish in the same way that the proposed "pay per weight" system where weely bins have
sensors and you get charged accourding to how much rubbish you dispose of would just encourage people to put rubbish in other peoples bins!!! Stupid
stupid stupid stupid..... The only people who benefit from these stupid schemes are the "enforcers", the dipstick civil servants who think
of them (and write the policies) and the fly-tippers...
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 01:40 PM |
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Near my house is a lay-by with a concrete bin, not that you can tell due to the shear pile of black bags heaped up around it. Across the road is a
wall with some woods, again piles upon piles of rubbish bags are behind that, it’s where I got my lovely electrolysis bath. Stolen cars are even left
burnt out, oh yeah and someone committed suicide there too.
What a lovely place.
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smart51
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 01:57 PM |
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Is your bin located next to your neighbour's? *chough* Wink wink. Or worse, is your bin located next to your neighbour? (Oi, who put this in
here?).
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graememk
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 02:09 PM |
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if you give my local bin men £5 they will take anything you ask them to.
quite usfull when you've been building a car from old scrap lol..
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Dragon-Performance-Eu
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 02:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
Only problem is the grass is not usually greener on the other side of the fence... ie by living abroad.
Well the grass aint green because its that forking hot its all burnt
As for bin men we get bins collected three times a WEEK : Monday's, Wednesday's & Friday's. our version of council tax costs
£85.00 for a YEAR....
petrol costs 60p a liter too....
Am I glad we left the bankrupt rat infested place called Britain, forking right I am and I wont go back ever unless I have a plane ticket in my pocket
to get back out again.
[Edited on 22-4-08 by Dragon-Performance-Eu]
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 02:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dragon-Performance-Eu
quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
Only problem is the grass is not usually greener on the other side of the fence... ie by living abroad.
Well the grass aint green because its that forking hot its all burnt
As for bin men we get bins collected three times a WEEK : Monday's, Wednesday's & Friday's. our version of council tax costs
£85.00 for a YEAR....
petrol costs 60p a liter too....
Am I glad we left the bankrupt rat infested place called Britain, forking right i am and i wont go back ever unless i have a ticket to get back out
again.
[Edited on 22-4-08 by Dragon-Performance-Eu]
oh your just saying that, I bet you miss the place really
Last person I know who moved somewhere that hot, ended up in hospital with heatstroke with in a week and had to come back 
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Dragon-Performance-Eu
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 02:51 PM |
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I was back last week to visit my unwell father and i did nowt but moan about how cold Aberdeen was......
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 02:57 PM |
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Oops just missed the good weather then. Still considering where you are as an alternative to France but might not cope with that much heat.
[Edited on 22/4/08 by Mr Whippy]
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JoelP
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 05:11 PM |
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utter nonsense. Whats the problem with landfill? Its the best place for most of it. Im tempted to get an open fire back in and just burn it all. Save
on the gas bill too.
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 05:34 PM |
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Bin men and women get my goat these days. Forever looking for an excuse not to empty the bleeding bin. Never an excuse emptying the green garden waste
bin though because they take that down the tip, shred it and sell it back to you! Cheeky arses! At work it's £50 fine for littering, £80 for fly
tipping and unless you're a real multiple offender it'll be £80 for shoplifting from the local B&Q. That being the case its cheaper to
steal another bin or just throw the rubbish across the street.
Another idea, that I just remembered from when I lived at my parents. Ring the council and tell them your bin's bust or stolen and they'll
drop a new one off. Now you have two Just don't put them out next to each other
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Dusty
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 05:35 PM |
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Mistake to burn it. If you reduce the weight of recycled waste proportionate to landfill waste you may get fined for not recycling enough. I'm
going to have to buy more canned food as opposed to fresh to get my percentages right.
How can anyone accept 'overfilling a refuse container' is a criminal offence!
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JoelP
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 06:07 PM |
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i dont recycle anything. Can never remember when the damn bin goes out! So i bin the lot
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 06:11 PM |
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I only recycle the beer cans and bottles and the grass but I went for my first trip to weigh in some stuff today and I'm thinking of saving my
ally cans now. I'm just disgruntled at the council having any more of my money
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 22/4/08 at 06:46 PM |
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Didn't the ITV news say today that he had been warned? OK the initial fine was perhaps unfair but the reason the fine was increased was because
he refused to pay it . He was recycling but looking at the amount of pop bottles that could have been crushed makes you wonder why he couldn't
shut the lid. Best thing for the bin men to do would have been to leave his bin . Our bin is emptied once a fortnight but its never full as we crush
and recycle everything we can. PS he even had an oversized bin Sorry no sympathy from me
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