stevebubs
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| posted on 27/6/08 at 12:54 PM |
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Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I thought my CBT was a bit of a joke, could barely change gear without falling off and was handed a certificate 
If you'd fallen off the you wouldn't have gotten one...
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Is it possible to fail that test??
I've known several people fail it - most of them complete numptys
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Haven’t crashed it yet though but at 60mph it's terrifying 
I had a "sudden deflation" on my rear tyre @ 65 with cars coming the other way...that was "interesting" but not a scratch on
me or the bike....
[Edited on 27/6/08 by stevebubs]
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Mole
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| posted on 28/6/08 at 08:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I thought my CBT was a bit of a joke, could barely change gear without falling off and was handed a certificate
Is it possible to fail that test??
I know they can withold a certificate until they think your okay. When I did mine someone there had come back for the third time (and no it
wasn't me)
[Edited on 28/6/08 by Mole]
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paul the 6th
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 10:25 AM |
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How the british motorcycle system works:
CBT = Compulsory basic training (a certificate which is valid for 2 years)
At the age of 16, this entitles you to ride a moped upto 50cc with l-plates displayed front and back, you are NOT allowed to carry a passenger (aka
pillion).
Age 17 or over, you can ride a bike upto 125cc (the actual power restriction is stated in kwH/kg as part of a EC directive, but the 125cc limit is
the closest in laymans terms on the showroom floor). Again, l-plates front and back & no pillion.
The cbt entitles you to get out on the road as a provisional rider and get some experience.
Once you've done this you have a 2 year window to get your test passed (if you actually want a bike licence... failing that you can just do your
cbt every 2 years like most of the couriers in london).
Theory test
similar to the car test with 35 questions and hazard perception. Once this is passed, you can apply for your practical.
Practical Test
45 minute to 1 hour assessed ride. There are 2 types of practical. The 'A1' and 'A'.
A1 = allows the rider to ride bikes upto 33 bhp. If you pass your A1, you're restricted to 33bhp for 2 years and/or until you're 21 years
old.
If you're over 21, you can take the 'A' straight away = big bikes 
Passing this allows the rider to ride any motorcycle.
When I did my car test, it was all about how to actually pass the test. "Don't cross your arms. The instructor wants to see you looking
over your shoulder when reversing, looking in the mirror isnt good enough etc. You have to try 4th gear when in a 30 mph or the instructor will give
you a minor" (yes I was told this and did receive a minor for not trying 4th gear in a 30mph because it was a 2 litre diesel 206... wankers.
I did 18 hours of bike tuition and the emphasis is completely on "Has that car driver at the junction actually seen you? Make eye contact
with them till you pass. If they break eye contact, get on the brakes 'cos they're going to pull out on you". Or "Before you
move out to overtake that parked car, have you checked your blindspot to see if the space you're moving into is free?" (the instructor
would purposely get in these spaces to catch me out when I hadn't checked...)
Also, things like u-turns and emergency stops required alot more practice & concentration than 3-point turns. U-turn, if you lose your balance or
concentration you can drop the bike or hit the curb. Emergency stops = if you're rubbish at front and rear brake control you'll lock the
front and slide down the road on your face...
So yes. I think bike licences should be kept seperate to cars and I can only see the new changes to the bike test (introduced in october 2008) as a
good thing - (although the clash with european numptys over the 31mph emergency stop thing is just carp).
End of rant p.s. I'm passionate about bikes
[Edited on 22/7/08 by paul the 6th]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 11:23 AM |
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Following on from the last posting...
I passed my bike test years ago, when it was the stupid 'drive round the block while I watch you' affair. Anything's more sensible
than that!
I think that I'm a far better car driver because of all the experiences I gained on my bikes (I used to do around 400 miles a week).
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trogdor
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 01:07 PM |
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my dad told me of the time he took his test, the bike he had borrowed kept stalling and he had to keep trying to re-start it. Luckily it was the test
where the instructer was on foot and he never noticed!
[Edited on 22/7/08 by trogdor]
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