coozer
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:35 PM |
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Too many liberal do gooders in this country and that includes people on here...
Its everyones right to buy whatever vehicle they want and travel anywhere they like in the world. We are totally entitled to 'waste' oil
as said if we pay for it. Isn't the whole kitcar/hobby car scene a 'waste' of oil? Its just not the point IMHO.
Oil is millions of years old and a lot cheaper to get out of the ground now than it was 25 years ago. The only reason for high oil prices is greedy
speculation on the stock markets.
Its time governments and other agencies developed some alternative but as oil companies have a vested interest i can't see it happening
quick.
We used to have trams, what happened to them? Where they not the most friendly form of city transport? Replaced by buses.
Electric motor technology has been around for a hundred years and all these excuses of powering them to make them usable is nutsack to me. If
they'd invested in battery technology years ago we would be driving electric cars right now, cheaply! BUT, oil companies would loose out so
there you have it. We are reliant on oil not cause we waste it but because they want us too!
I would love to own a Tesla and convert my scooter to battery power but its just not feasable so I will continue to 'waste' the oil until
they tell me to stop, and give me a same cost alternative.
Right then, off to
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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02GF74
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 03:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Our country may be tinny but we make up 1% of the world's population, making us the 21st most populous nation out of 190 odd. Not only that,
but we are the 5th richest nation and consume more power per head than almost anywhere save the USA. They and the Chinese are the biggest polluters
true enough. We won't get them to change unless we do it first. To suggest that we can achieve nothing is a bit defeatist.
you don't really think that do you?
the Chinese, American and Indias will say "ooh, look at those silly British people living in caves and walking everywhere, not using any fuel.
That means ther is MORE FOR US!!! WOO HOO let's drive the rangie another 30 miles this eveing"!"
All living things, including human beings, survive by grabbing as much for themselves to make their life easier at the expense of the environment and
other living things.
It has been like that since the sabred tooth amoeba ate the single cell bacterium. No reason why it is going to change now.
I am not going to cycle from London to Birmingham or freeze my b****cks off in winter so that some Chinese geezer can watch baywatch on his 57 inch
plasma.
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skodaman
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 04:55 PM |
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' they should have a look at a map of the world we in the uk live on a tinny little country ... what we as a country do to be green will have
bugger all effect on the world'
Exactly. If there's any truth to global warming it's got bog all to do with Britain who's done a great job at cutting emmissions
by allowing it's industries to go to the wall.
Does anyone seriously think we should cut our own throats to set an example for USA, China, India etc, or that a totalitarian regime such as
China's would give a damn what everyone else was doing as long as they were exporting loads of crap. If you want to hurt a country such as this
don't buy it's products. Buy something nice and green instead from Sweden or Germany if you can afford it. I can't say buy British
cos we don't make anything anymore.
From a British point of view the whole global warming thing is being used by the government to screw more taxes out of us to make up for their
economic ineptness and greed.
Anyway when I become the benevolent dictator of the World I'm going to give Scotland full independence and deport Gordon Brown. Might just
make him walk from London to the border as well, just so he doesn't feel guilty about his carbon footprint.
Skodaman
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JoelP
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 05:43 PM |
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ive said before, that theres no point worrying about oil consumption because theres nothing we can do about it individually. Change will only happen
slowly and will be driven by economics, ie rising prices. There is no point at all getting into a sweat about it. I dont doubt for a moment that every
last drop of oil will get used, so theres nothing we can do for the environment anyway. If someone invented a source of free energy tomorrow, like
cold fusion, and made it freely available to all, oil would still get used because market price would drop to a competetive level.
So to summarise, ALL the oil will be used, and the price of energy in general will reflect market conditions, ie supply and demand.
If you can afford to fuel a 5litre car, well done.
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Aboardman
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 06:10 PM |
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double figures you are not driving very enthusiastically.
quote:
Originally posted by D Beddows
I think you'll find most 'enthusiastically' driven kit cars do well under 20mpg which isn't exactly fuel efficient!
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