mad4x4
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 11:48 AM |
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Chop Shop, Topgear and SVA's :mad:
My mate was watching Chop shop UK the othernight, the one for the Ross Kemp Car.
Anyway Ross asked if this is road legal and they replied yeah it gets an SVA & a "Structural Test"
But.... it had
1) With very wide Aluminium looking Wheel Spacers (+8"
2) Saab springs Cut down to lower it but they hadn't been ground Flat.
3) The 'A' Posts had been cut too to do something with the ROOF
etc.
4) Think the 'A' post had been re-joined with a but weld and nothing slip up inside to give added strength
Surely a structural test on a car is an NCAP type test of smashing it into a Block.
Surely a car would fail an SVA with 8-10" wheel spacers which are made of Aluminium and the Wheel bolts are threaded into the Ally.
Surley by cutting the Apost and but welding them would fail an SVA.
How do the TV get away with it or is it
1) They say SVA but don;t
or
2) THey have a favorable SVA center/tester
Similary Topgear , last year they built limo's to take folk like that looser from radio one to the Britts and Clarkson's one drove broke
in two in downtown London. Surely if it had had that much chassis work down it would have needed an SVA and the SVA would have said not structurally
strong enough.........
So what are all these TV progs upto and how do they get to do these thing?
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 11:52 AM |
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The top gear ones were SVA'd but Clarkson's one didn't really break in half. As with 90% of Topgear bullsh*t it was staged.
As for structural tests, torsional rigidity is quite common for a heavily modified chassis, pretty easy to carry out a rough and ready test without
specialist equipment.
Can't comment on the rest as I didn't see the programme, but 8" spacers would not do much for wheel bearing life!
[Edited on 17/10/08 by matt_claydon]
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smart51
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 11:55 AM |
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Clarksons car had to have about 2 metres cut out of the length to make it road legal. The other cars were largely standard but cut and welded. The
emissions and brakes would be more or less OK, as would exterior radiuses.
Chop shop is an entirely other matter. Not only is their stuff as ugly as sin, what I've seen of theirs could in no way be made road legal.
The guy is a fool.
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mikeb
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 12:08 PM |
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Don't know about the sva, but
Chop shop makes for interesting tele, if only to laugh at the twits.
In the first series they were on budget so you expected refurbs rather than new kit. One or two of the cars looked ok, but probably haven't aged
well!!
This seires they should have upped their game and spend a bit more money, cutting springs and rebuilding a saab engine with 200+ on the clock, I
wouldn't buy it,no chance.
Nice new engine, big brakes etc etc. (Watch Overhaulin, at least their rebuilds are good) would make a difference,
If I can get over the frustration of the crapness of what they are doing I'll carry on watching it for the enterainment factor!!
[Edited on 17/10/08 by mikeb]
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stevebubs
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 02:10 PM |
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Chop Shop are plain idiots.
No mechanical know-how goes into those cars at all
Turning up for a "test day" with the client at Santapod with a car barely started - great business sense...
Up their own @rses and while Leepu genuinely does produce some reasonable bodywork, the whole thing is let down by the other tw@t
[Edited on 17/10/08 by stevebubs]
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bigpig
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 03:30 PM |
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I've seen on (IIRC) wrecks to riches (or the other salvage program with the tallk mechanic and that irritating car sales person) a car having a
structural test. In this case the examiner used what looked like an enhanced multimeter to measure voltage/ultrasonic(?) accross the replaced
sections.
At A guess they are measuring something like ultrasonic waves or an electrical sinewave for purity to determine if the metal is properly welded
together.
Its some test you can undergo for a cat d & C(?) to get a roadworthiness certificate. Something like DOT vehicle inspection, but can't
remeber the proper name.
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repper
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| posted on 17/10/08 at 07:16 PM |
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iagree the program is totaly cr*p but i still have to watch and have the sky+ set to record if not in
but the cars there is no way thay are road leagal as for one the festa in the first serires (boy racer build) it had moor negative camber on the front
wheels it was only running on a bout 1 or 2 " on the inner edge off the tyre
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A1
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| posted on 18/10/08 at 08:46 AM |
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ulE-Oq1uX-I&feature=related
my god, that thing is a joke...
also the paint senarios kinda obvious id have thought...
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DIY Si
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| posted on 18/10/08 at 09:32 AM |
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Is there not a way of registering vehicles as either show vehicles or for agricultural use that side steps the SVA? I seem to remember that happening
on Scrapheap once.
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