mr henderson
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 12:11 PM |
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Originally posted by woodster
At the end of the day if you pinch some one elses country you will p*ss them off and they will fight back .. if i put a tent up in your back garden
and said it was now mine i think you would do your best to remove me 
The Israelis were there first. It just depends on how far back you want to go.
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Benzine
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 12:37 PM |
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Originally posted by mr henderson
The Israelis were there first. It just depends on how far back you want to go.
So before 1948 (when the Arabs and Jewish minority were neighbours and used to babysit each others children) you had a Jewish minority being oppressed
with their human rights being thrown out of the window? No. "the israelis were there first" is a very feeble argument. How can you
possibly side with zionists?! How can you support the murder, torture & breaking of international laws everyday? How can you support any of
these things and still claim to be a rational, intelligent, free-thinking, logical human being?
On the other hand, only 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. It's just a bit of fun isnt' it?
ATB!
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mr henderson
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 01:09 PM |
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Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
The Israelis were there first. It just depends on how far back you want to go.
So before 1948 (when the Arabs and Jewish minority were neighbours and used to babysit each others children) you had a Jewish minority being oppressed
with their human rights being thrown out of the window? No. "the israelis were there first" is a very feeble argument. How can you
possibly side with zionists?! How can you support the murder, torture & breaking of international laws everyday? How can you support any of
these things and still claim to be a rational, intelligent, free-thinking, logical human being?
On the other hand, only 1,050 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000. It's just a bit of fun isnt' it?
ATB!
I'm not supporting anybody or anything. I personally do not have a position on the Arab Israeli conflict, beyond being able to observe that the
two sides each wish the other would disappear off the face of the Earth, and when one or other of them does so disappear then that is when the
conflict will be over and not before.
What I will say, though, is that for every piece of propaganda from one side there is a piece available from the other side.
I don't think we should be discussing this sort of politics on LCB, but seeing as the thread has been started it is only fair to point out that
there are TWO SIDES to every argument, especially this one.
And to add that, in order to preserve traditional English fair play, until this thread is closed, which I expect it may well soon be, each time
anybody posts a piece of Palestinian propaganda then I will post a piece of Israeli propaganda.
Incidentally, if you want to call any part of my argument 'feeble' then it will look a lot better if you somehow justify that point of
view rather than simply state it.
John
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Benzine
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 01:24 PM |
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Originally posted by mr henderson
And to add that, in order to preserve traditional English fair play, until this thread is closed, which I expect it may well soon be, each time
anybody posts a piece of Palestinian propaganda then I will post a piece of Israeli propaganda.
Palestine by Joe Sacco, a Maltese-American author (a graphic novel, not a comic btw)
Occupation 101, made in America
"Occupation 101 includes interviews with mostly American and Israeli scholars, religious leaders, humanitarian workers, and NGO's critical
of the injustices and human rights abuses that stem from Israeli policy in the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza Strip."
In conclusion, Naom Chomsky pwns
j00!!111
IBTL
[Edited on 23/10/08 by Benzine]
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mr henderson
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 02:19 PM |
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Originally posted by mr henderson
And to add that, in order to preserve traditional English fair play, until this thread is closed, which I expect it may well soon be, each time
anybody posts a piece of Palestinian propaganda then I will post a piece of Israeli propaganda.
I've had another think about this, and have decided that this is not the right place to have this kind of discussion.
So, Mr Benzine, the floor is yours, fill your boots.
John
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James
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 03:47 PM |
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Gotta agree with Mr. H.
This is not the place for this sort of argument.
It's too imflamatory and will only cause trouble.
Save it for a more appropriate forum.
All the best,
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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