flak monkey
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 12:41 PM |
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Good bye Ferrari?
Would they? I doubt it....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/oct/27/formulaone-motorsports
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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blakep82
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 12:50 PM |
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what manufacturer really wants their name (ferrari, toyota, BMW etc) on a car running someone elses engine?
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MikeR
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 12:58 PM |
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its brinkmanship. FIA suggests this. Teams threaten to pull pug. They all go to paris, argue for a day or two and agree a compromise which
they'd all have gone for if they didn't hate each other in the first place.
I'd suggest that anyone can make an engine. the engines go to a central pool where they are 'locked down'. Teams sign agreements to
buy engines from manufacturers and get the engines from the locked pool held by the FIA. The engines can only cost a fixed amount set by the FIA.
This way if BMW want to make an amazing engine they can - just everyone else has the option of using it and it will only cost them a fixed amount. As
anyone can get any engine you can't cheat and make special versions for yourself.
Job done.
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chrisg
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 01:03 PM |
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"Ferrari have been historically closely aligned with the FIA "
***cough***
We'd noticed.
Cheers
Chris 
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 01:04 PM |
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The worlds most stupid idea from Spanky there!!! So with Ferrari, Mercedes, BMW, Honda, Toyota and Renault all in F1, they try to suggest bringing in
a common engine!!! I think every team will be behind Ferrari on this one (as will every fan) - but i recon the idea was to try and push the teams to
cut costs elsewhere so they can keep the current manufacturers engines.
I'm sure the FIA will drop the idea now that Ferrari have said so anyway!!
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Phil.J
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 01:12 PM |
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I think that the cost cutting measures, including the 3 races per engine rule have scuppered the homogenised engine proposal now.
Back in the days when Enzo himself was at the helm of Ferrari, he threatened to withdraw the team on several occaisions when he wasn't getting
his way!
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 01:25 PM |
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How about 1 engine and a spare per car per team for the whole season.
That way they will have to make them reliable, but if one does drop a rod they have a spare to play with. If the main and spare both perish during the
season then you are out of the championship. Tough titties, should have made a more reliable engine.
Maybe Audi would then enter one of their diesel jobbies.
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 01:35 PM |
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This is unfortunately not a new FIA tactic. They do not really want a one motor series. They do however need the teams to all agree on some pretty
drastic cost cutting measures.
So what do they do? They put a ludicrous proposition on the table. All the team people involved get very worried about their own jobs and futures.
Suddenly they are able to accept other, slightly more reasonable ideas that they would previously have refused.
Bernie knows exactly what he's doing and yet again he will get what he wants.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 01:38 PM |
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How about ban carbon brakes and carbon wings (which get smashed far too often at £10k plus a go and leave shards all over the track to puncture tyres)
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smart51
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 02:07 PM |
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How about 1 car per driver per season. That would make the cars very reliable. Repairs for collision damage are acceptable.
Either the later races of the season would be very lonely or there would be a lot of "accidental" mid season crashes. Either would be
quite interesting.
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 02:24 PM |
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Can you people not see what is so glaringly obvious?
The contract for the engines will go to...
FERRARI!!!!
That way, they can guarantee that no-one will EVER beat them.
Cheers,
Syd.
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johnston
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| posted on 28/10/08 at 02:35 PM |
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How about they just take F1 back to what it was when it was good racing.
Drivers had full control of their car, so driver skill comes back into the equation so mistakes to allow passing come back . Take out fuel stops to
take out the stratagy, so that racing takes part on the track not in the pits (also cuts cost by not needing all the safty gear refuel rigs and extra
crew members).
Put them on slicks so they have more mechanical grip and less reliance on aerodynamics and maybe just maybe they will be able to get into dirty air
and pass.
Stop punishing racers let them be aggressive if someone don't like a bit of push and shove let them go play on something else.
Otherwise put them all out in the same chassis same engine dyno'd to within a few bhp and just wave yellow flags for the entire race.
p.s, not watched a full season since mid ninties cos i kept falling asleep mid race.
But someone needs the balls to say to ferrari if you dont like it walk the threaten it all the time call their bluff..
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