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scootz

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:13 AM Reply With Quote
Old Unregistered Cars and V5's!

Just bought a 1968 MGBGT. It's been sat in a barn for years and has no V5. Do I just get in touch with DVLA with the chassis / engine number to get a new one? Also, is it age related (i.e. will it still be Tax-exempt)?
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iank

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:15 AM Reply With Quote
You need to fill in a V62 and pay £25.
Fill in a SORN at the same time to avoid potential problems.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/AdviceOnBuyingAndSellingAVehicle/DG_4022404

You get the original reg back assuming it hasn't officially been scrapped - don't know what happens then...

[Edited on 24/2/09 by iank]





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:18 AM Reply With Quote
You should get the original registration number unless it has since been allocated to another car, in which case they should issue an age related plate. As IanK says - fill out the form and send your cheque along with a new SORN declaration. Hopefully DVLA will just accept it.

Has it been on SORN previously? Did you get a receipt with the car just in case??

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mcerd1

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:20 AM Reply With Quote
is this the replacement for the audi then
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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:34 AM Reply With Quote
do you have the reg number? on old tax disks, mots, bills etc

then you could either do a dvla vehicle check or an RAC data check and pull up its history, I used that for the Falcon

[Edited on 24/2/09 by Mr Whippy]






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minitici

posted on 24/2/09 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
You should not have a problem with SORN even if you claim the V5.
I did this with my Austin 7 Special and they just returned the SORN application I sent with the V62.
Basically no need to SORN as the car was not taxed when SORN was introduced.

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iank

posted on 24/2/09 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by minitici
You should not have a problem with SORN even if you claim the V5.
I did this with my Austin 7 Special and they just returned the SORN application I sent with the V62.
Basically no need to SORN as the car was not taxed when SORN was introduced.


It becomes a problem when you get the V5 changed to your name, as you need to SORN when it changes hands even if it's been off the road before the rule changes. At least that's what I understand to be how the system works. Better to waste 30 seconds filling in the form and removing all risk of a fine IMO.





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mcerd1

posted on 24/2/09 at 11:24 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iank
It becomes a problem when you get the V5 changed to your name, as you need to SORN when it changes hands even if it's been off the road before the rule changes. At least that's what I understand to be how the system works. Better to waste 30 seconds filling in the form and removing all risk of a fine IMO.

that's basically what someone at the DVLA told me when I got my scimitar (it had a V5 and has been off the road since 1984 ) they actually said it was at the discretion of the person who processed it ! so I SORN'd it at the same time to be safe

but when I tried to renew the SORN it I was told I couldn't because it was already off the road when SORN's started - so the only way I can SORN it is to tax it first

from my experience it appears that this new database thing (that lets you tax / sorn online) is what stops you declaring a car SORN if it was already off the road

so its best to check - but the answer you get seems to depend on who you speak to
but if the computer tells them it doesn't need a SORN then they are happy



[Edited on 24/2/09 by mcerd1]

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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/2/09 at 11:35 AM Reply With Quote
hmm explains why my SORN application for the falcon hasn't arrived then






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minitici

posted on 24/2/09 at 01:26 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by minitici
You should not have a problem with SORN even if you claim the V5.
I did this with my Austin 7 Special and they just returned the SORN application I sent with the V62.
Basically no need to SORN as the car was not taxed when SORN was introduced.


It becomes a problem when you get the V5 changed to your name, as you need to SORN when it changes hands even if it's been off the road before the rule changes. At least that's what I understand to be how the system works. Better to waste 30 seconds filling in the form and removing all risk of a fine IMO.


I was also changing vehicle ownership at the time - but as you say you might as well send them the SORN form anyway just to be on the safe side.

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scootz

posted on 24/2/09 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
Hoorah! Good news indeed! No road tax for my new toy (which will take ages to get anywhere near road-ready as it's a complete rust-bucket!).

PS - No Robert, it's not replacing the A6... this is though -

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Anyone want buy an Audi???

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mcerd1

posted on 24/2/09 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
PS - No Robert, it's not replacing the A6... this is though -

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I like what you've done with it

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zilspeed

posted on 24/2/09 at 06:02 PM Reply With Quote
When I got the V5C through for the Sylva, I SORNed immediately.
Haven't heard a cheep since and that is coming up for two years now.






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scootz

posted on 24/2/09 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
I didn't do that... the previous owner did!
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zilspeed

posted on 24/2/09 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I didn't do that... the previous owner did!


In my case, I was the first owner who actually had the car correctly registered.
Wouldn't have been good to go straight to a fine for no tax disc.






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scootz

posted on 25/2/09 at 08:47 AM Reply With Quote
... meant the damage to the Merc in the photo.
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