Jasper
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 02:02 PM |
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BEWARE EBAY
A very good customer of mine has been caught out on Ebay and it has cost him £3K.
He bought an item from a person with great feedback and lots of it. They only accepted money transfers. He sent the money, and the goods never
arrived.
The seller is in the US.
So here's how it works: You get an Email for 'Ebay' (though it's not from them). It looks real with all the HTML. You click on
the link and ALL your membership ID details are captured. The person can then change your password and lock you out of your account. When you report
this to Ebay it takes them about 3 days to close your account and give it back to you to open affresh.
During this time the seller will list a good item at a reaonable price and use your account and excellent feedback history to sell the item. It will
always be listed for no more than 3 days, usually in the highlighted section at the top. There will be a 'Buy Now' option. The photo will
have be ripped from a previous sale. He will say he doesn't accept PayPal anymore (which is also no gaurantee of a safe sale) because of fraud
from some other dodgy country and you have to pay by bank transfer.
You pay your money and kiss it good buy.
Unfortunately for this chap he doesn't as yet know who he's ripped off. My customer is worth millions and is quite a 'scary'
chap. He's aready got the investigators on it who are working on Alex Ferguson, and they are homing in on him in the US. When they've got
him my customer will be on a plane with a couple of chaps armed with pliers and a blowtorch - seriously!
So unless - you've got those kind of resources, be very careful what you buy.
[Edited on 26/2/04 by Jasper]
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mackie
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 02:15 PM |
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Got some pliers and a blow torch - should be fine 
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Staple balls
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 02:20 PM |
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this all comes down to common sense
which many people seem to lack..
paypal and ebay will not email you, unless you've bidded on something, sent/recived money or somesuch.
if they want to update your details, they'll do that on the site when you next sign in, in a secure connection.
all legit paypal URLs start with HTTPS://
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Jasper
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 02:53 PM |
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But that when the scammers email you - they wait till you win a bid - then send you a dodgy email - and you don't even need to divulge your info
- the software strips it out automatically.
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Alez
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 03:15 PM |
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"Pulp Fiction", classic
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 03:23 PM |
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i felt bad sending a cheque off the other day for £14. anything more i would go in person anyway. Thats hard luck on your mate though jasper, at least
theres a chance the lasher will learn an important lesson! (bum not, lest thee be bummed thyself...)
probably the crack with the hayabusa on the other thread then... ('too cheap?'
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 03:40 PM |
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talk of the devil, heres another. 3 items listed too cheap at the same time... vieq sellers other items.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2463155030&category=9808
maybe put you pal onto this crank jasper?!?
btw, i've reported this one myself...
[Edited on 26/2/04 by JoelP]
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mackie
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 04:02 PM |
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The Phaeton just changed to an SL!
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Jasper
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 04:02 PM |
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All his feedback is for stuff Bought, not Sold......
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 04:17 PM |
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i have 130 sucessful / buy / sells on ebay and have never had a prob with a payment or billing.
But I can see how it happens.
I have never been above 150 quid.
spending serious money with someone you dont know for something you cant see is stupid anyway.
Things on ebay tend to find their own correct price and level - anything that looks like that hayabusa has GOT to be a fraud
atb
steve
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Deckman001
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 04:25 PM |
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So why can't the police get called and set up a sting !!?????
Jason
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tonyweave
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 04:25 PM |
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escrow service
I received one of theses e-mails and at the time I did not have an account with ebay.
One way to safe guard your purchase is to use an escrow service. These companies will hold your payment until you've received, inspected and
approved the item. Only then does the escrow service pay the seller.
There is a charge for this service but for large amounts this maybe worth it.
I have listed below the address to the ebay help file on this matter.
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/buy/buytrust-escrow.html
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flak monkey
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 05:39 PM |
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RE that hayabusa on EBay. It says the seller is in the Uk. But one of the cars in the background is clearly a yank.
Dunno, i know people have cars imported. But that pic would put me off anyway.
And on the other Hayabusa he has the pic is clearly of an american house, not many like that in the uk...especially with the post box out from..
Check it and see for yourself...something dodgy going on i must agree!
Just my 2p worth 
David
[Edited on 26/2/04 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 05:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mackie
The Phaeton just changed to an SL!
madness! plus, its on a 52 plate (obv. sept 02), says reg 2003, and 01/04, which, depending on how you read it, would be apr'03 (hence 03 plate)
or 01/2004 which would be 53 plate.
i hate fraudsters who cant even lie properly...
im gonna mail him saying i want the phaeton, is the AMG on a buy one get one free offer?!
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Viper
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 05:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Deckman001
So why can't the police get called and set up a sting !!?????
Jason
Because it doesn't invilve a speed camera?
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Deckman001
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 05:54 PM |
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Thought there would be a simple reason involving police time and avaliable officers
Jason
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flak monkey
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 06:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
madness! plus, its on a 52 plate (obv. sept 02), says reg 2003,
I checked the registration plate on the RAC website thing that was posted on here a while ago.
Apparently the car was built in january 03. Last changed owners in october 03. Maybe just a late registration.
Whatever its still dodgy
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 09:35 PM |
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does anyone know the address to which you should forward spoof emails from ebay to? i think i got one...
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Staple balls
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| posted on 26/2/04 at 09:42 PM |
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abuse@ebay.com maybe?
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Peteff
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| posted on 27/2/04 at 11:25 AM |
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My customer is worth millions and is quite a 'scary' chap
It's a cutthroat business, this teddy bear stuff then? I reported one a month ago from "ebay". Forward them the email with headers
and let them deal with it. You have to go to the contact us section and find the section that deals with fraud. There are ones for suspicious and
inappropriate listings as well as email detail fraud.
yours, Pete.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Jasper
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| posted on 27/2/04 at 01:02 PM |
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Ebay don't really care too much about this as far as I can see and hear. They just unlist the item.
I'm putting an article together for a couple of magazines and possibly a national paper on this - anybody know of anybody else whose been ripped
off then please let me know.
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mackie
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| posted on 27/2/04 at 01:45 PM |
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A guy at work bought (or tried to) an iMac that didn't get sold on eBay so he went "out of band" and sent money direct. To
Portugul.
Needless to say he got no pretty coloured computer.
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greggors84
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| posted on 27/2/04 at 06:44 PM |
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Emailed the seller with the Busa, asking if i could come and look at the bike, as i thought surely it would be too dodgy going and paying in cash and
collecting the bike. Of course i had never intention of buying the bike, ive only ever riden my mates 50cc derby senda before!
Got this reply.
Hello,
First of all I must inform you that currently I'm in Netherland and i have to let you know that the bike is here with me. I am the first owner
of the bike; I bought it directly from an authorized dealer.
No damage,no scratches or dents, never down, no hidden defects, and it is as advertised.The bike is an UK model with UK specs,it passed the test
emissions and comes with all the documents you need to register the bike ,still under warranty(extended at 3 years) .
The bike it has a clear title wich you will receive it with the bike.
I recently ordered a new car from a dealer down here because I suffered a bike accident and can't ride for a while and i need the cash in the
next few days to pay for it.
The buy it now price is 2180 GBP, shipping included
The bike will be shipped from Netherland with Fedex and i will cover the shipping costs and insurance.You will not have to pay additional taxes, just
only the price for it.
The payment is fully refundable. if for any reason you do not accept the bike or if the bike has scratches, hidden defects, or it is not as
advertised. I will even pay for the shipping back to my location if you reject the bike but since it is a state of the art bike and works and looks
perfectly I think it would not get to this.
If you agree with these terms,let me know and i will provide you further details.
Kind regards.
And i though they would only except cash on collection as u could never post a bike!!
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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madforfishing
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| posted on 27/2/04 at 07:14 PM |
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That Hayabusa Ad has been pulled, doubt EBay will chase anything up though.
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Jasper
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| posted on 28/2/04 at 01:10 PM |
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My chap who was scammed now knows the scammers home and work address, all phone numbers, all his bank details, and his credit card numbers, and is
about to totolly clean him out for everthing he has.....bring it on!
Ebay never chase anything up - they recons it's up to local plod.
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