craig1410
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| posted on 28/5/09 at 10:36 PM |
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Sanding window frames - which sander?
Hi,
It's time to paint (white gloss) the wooden framed double glazed windows again and I would appreciate any recommendations for a suitable detail
sander which might make the chore a bit quicker and less laborious.
The plan is to remove the hinged window panels (very easy) to give better access to the frame and sand and undercoat them separately. They will then
be flatted and refitted before painting with gloss top coat the following day.
I'm looking for a sander which will quickly cut through the crappy existing paint with minimal effort but I'm not looking for another
useless gadget to sit on my shelf so feel free to advise me if my money would be better spent on a roll of sandpaper and some extra shredded wheat!
Thanks,
Craig.
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 28/5/09 at 10:49 PM |
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A good scraper with tungsten blades works a treat. Sand paper clogs too easily.
Then sand when all the crap is off, before you prime/undercoat.
It's how I am doing mine.
The scraper is really quick.
HTH
[Edited on 28/5/09 by Confused but excited.]
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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craig1410
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| posted on 28/5/09 at 11:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
A good scraper with tungsten blades works a treat.
Is that one of those little triangular scrapers I've seen in the likes of B&Q? Sounds like it's worth a shot, thanks! 
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rgrs
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| posted on 29/5/09 at 06:55 AM |
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If you've got more than 3 layers of paint, then try a hot air gun and a scraper its a lot quicker and should give a better finish.
Roger
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craig1410
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| posted on 29/5/09 at 07:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rgrs
If you've got more than 3 layers of paint, then try a hot air gun and a scraper its a lot quicker and should give a better finish.
Roger
Do you count undercoat in those three layers or are you talking three layers of gloss? The house is 8 years old and has probably only been painted
once by the builders and once more by the original owners.
Thanks,
Craig.
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 29/5/09 at 08:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
A good scraper with tungsten blades works a treat.
Is that one of those little triangular scrapers I've seen in the likes of B&Q? Sounds like it's worth a shot, thanks!
No, it uses removable blades similar to an electric plane and has a long handle that you can hold with both hands.
I got mine a couple of years ago from B&Q and paid about £14 for it. Well worth it.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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nick205
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| posted on 29/5/09 at 09:05 AM |
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Is the existing wood and paint sound?
If so then I'd be looking at a light sanding all over with sand paper to give a key for the new paint and take off any high spots/brush marks
and then a thorough wash down with sugar soap and dry off then 1-2 thin coats of top gloss.
Definitely worth taking the windows out of the frames though - much easier to get a decent finish without getting paint all over the hinges etc.
Having said that I am not one for faffing about painting windows anymore - all UPVC'd up in our place 
[Edited on 29/5/09 by nick205]
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craig1410
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| posted on 29/5/09 at 09:57 AM |
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Hi,
No the existing paint is very flaky and there is some doubt as to whether the wood was ever primed or even undercoated. The house was built by Barratt
in 2000/01 and was not of very good build quality to say the least.
I do want to move to uPVC but I'd like to get another 2 or 3 years service from the existing windows if possible. Sounds like a thorough scrape,
sand, sugar soap, prime, undercoat and topcoat job is what is called for.
Thanks all,
Craig.
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maartenromijn
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| posted on 29/5/09 at 09:59 AM |
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As above, if the existing paint is OK, why bother to remove the layers?
Just give it a quick rub with Scotch Brite. The point is to lose the gloss. Then you have enough for the paint to stick. When you use say P100 sanding
paper you will damage the existing layers, and it wil cost a lot of effort.
Sorry for my difficult explanation, I am not English and don't know the correct terms for painting houses... 
BLOG: http://thunderroad-super7.blogspot.com/
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maartenromijn
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| posted on 29/5/09 at 10:00 AM |
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No the existing paint is very flaky and there is some doubt as to whether the wood was ever primed or even undercoated. The house was built by Barratt
in 2000/01 and was not of very good build quality to say the least.
Hot air gun and triangular scraper would be my plan of action.
BLOG: http://thunderroad-super7.blogspot.com/
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MikeR
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| posted on 29/5/09 at 11:46 AM |
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I've got wood stain on mine.
Give them a very light rub down, wash off, and paint every other year.
Some years they just get a wipe and paint. When i moved in 10 years ago (10 year old house) i thought they'd only last another 2 or 3 years.
They're now 20 years old and still hanging together ok. Probably only got a year or two left mind you.
(so should be ok for 4 or 5!!!)
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