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scootz

posted on 16/6/09 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
Limited Mobility - What Next?

I have a spinal injury which is gradually deteriorating and I'm relying on crutches more often to get about these days. Not all the time, but the good days are getting shorter and the bad ones longer!

Generally, I've found kit car seats (especially GRP ones) to be pretty supportive when in situ... my problem though is getting in / out! I'm increasingly finding that the pain of contorting my lower spine / pelvis can have me on the verge of vomiting (sorry... too much information!?).

So, I'm just looking a bit further down the line to when I reach a point that Radicals and Sevenesque cars are no longer an option... are there any kits out there that are a little easier to get into and out of?

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blakep82

posted on 16/6/09 at 08:33 PM Reply With Quote


jago jeeps and beach buggies perhaps?
ok maybe not as fast as a supercharged radical....

or would a well designed roll cage help at all? i've seen caterham ones where there's a half circle in the roof, so you could sort of stand up (using the bar to raise and lower yourself?) and step out?





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clairetoo

posted on 16/6/09 at 08:42 PM Reply With Quote
There is a Striker with a door on the drivers side - the guy is in a wheelchair . Sorry , dont know much more...
Sorry to hear of your troubles





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tomblyth

posted on 16/6/09 at 08:53 PM Reply With Quote
think MK did one where the side opened as well! worth thinking about! or you could make a lift to put you in! like those use to put people in the bath!
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LBMEFM

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry to hear of your health problems, it must be very frustrating. I would really urge you to look up the NG Kit Car web site, I think you would find them easy to access. Good luck, Barry
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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:36 PM Reply With Quote
Come on guys think outside the box.

Put the seat on a set of rails that make it rise vertically to allow Scootz to get to a position where he can transfer on to his feet or chair and vise a versa.

The rails would be tilted to the existing rake of the seats so the base would stay flat.
Steering wheel removable so not a problem






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Ninehigh

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
How far down can the door go?
Instead of climbing out swing the door open, swing your legs out (turn 90 degrees) and stand up. I mean the door would have to go most of the way down the cabin but if it's doable...






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blakep82

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
you mean like bolting the seat to the rear bulkhead (instead of the floor), on sliders, and bit like a stanna stair lift?





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SteveWalker

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry to hear of your problems, but I wonder if something along the lines of a bath hoist attached to the roll bar would work? It must be possible to arrange something, even if a completely redesigned rollbar or cage is necessary.
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iank

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:41 PM Reply With Quote
Cobra with some kind of swivel arrangement on the seat?





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SteveWalker

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
Come on guys think outside the box.

Put the seat on a set of rails that make it rise vertically to allow Scootz to get to a position where he can transfer on to his feet or chair and vise a versa.



Hmmm something along the lines of a simplified bike lift would lift upwards and backwards with a single ram. Could be a bit too deep to fit under the seat though?

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ReMan

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveWalker
Sorry to hear of your problems, but I wonder if something along the lines of a bath hoist attached to the roll bar would work? It must be possible to arrange something, even if a completely redesigned rollbar or cage is necessary.

There was an MK at Stoneleigh that had just this arrangement. Big respect to the driver. So do-able.

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McLannahan

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SteveWalker
Sorry to hear of your problems, but I wonder if something along the lines of a bath hoist attached to the roll bar would work? It must be possible to arrange something, even if a completely redesigned rollbar or cage is necessary.



There's a guy (sorry if you're on here as I don't know your name) that attends all the big KC shows with something similar for his 7'esque car. Seems to work really well for him.

Sorry to hear of your deteriorating health though Scott, hope thing aren't too downhill too fast.






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ashg

posted on 16/6/09 at 10:12 PM Reply With Quote
At Stoneleigh there was a black wheel chair converted Indy on the mk stand. it had what looked like an engine hoist to lower the chap in and out of the car. Was pretty impressive

Could you not put a scissor or worm gear mechanism under the seat so it can raise the seat right above the upper rails for you to sit on then lower down with you sitting in it.





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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 17/6/09 at 12:00 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ashg
At Stoneleigh there was a black wheel chair converted Indy on the mk stand. it had what looked like an engine hoist to lower the chap in and out of the car. Was pretty impressive

Could you not put a scissor or worm gear mechanism under the seat so it can raise the seat right above the upper rails for you to sit on then lower down with you sitting in it.



It does not need to go under the seat, It can go vertically behind the seat provided it has enough travel

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scootz

posted on 17/6/09 at 05:47 AM Reply With Quote
LOL... I love this website! Doesn't matter what the problem is, some genius / nutcase will come up with a solution!

Thanks for the replies guys... some food for thought there! I also saw the modified 7 at Stoneleigh... if the owners on here, would love to have a chat.

Pretty miserable week... a bunch of us go to the F1 GP every year. Tickets paid and my contribution to the motorhome / Whittlebury camp site made. Had to make the hard decision (it was actually very east, but you know what I mean) to cancel. £500 down the drain!

Couldn't care less about the money - just gutted that I'll be missing my yearly 'highlight'!

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speedyxjs

posted on 17/6/09 at 06:19 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by
Put the seat on a set of rails that make it rise vertically to allow Scootz to get to a position where he can transfer on to his feet or chair and vise a versa.



I was planning a similar system for my grandad to be a passenger in my car.





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posted on 17/6/09 at 06:48 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
Come on guys think outside the box.

Put the seat on a set of rails that make it rise vertically to allow Scootz to get to a position where he can transfer on to his feet or chair and vise a versa.

The rails would be tilted to the existing rake of the seats so the base would stay flat.
Steering wheel removable so not a problem




Hi Scootz, sorry to hear of your probs.

To add to Mango's idea, maybe a 12v trailer winch could be used to raise the seat up the runners.
Mount the winch on the floor behind the seat and run the cable up over a pulley wheel on the roll bar and back down to the seat runner frame.

Just my 2p

All the best mate,
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fesycresy

posted on 17/6/09 at 07:52 AM Reply With Quote
How about a helicopter ?

Not locost, but I've seen you mention radicals and ultimas before so you never know !





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David Jenkins

posted on 17/6/09 at 08:00 AM Reply With Quote
Would it be possible to fit a full roll cage to a 7 that would be strong enough to allow the side panel to be replaced with a door?
Would you be able to get enough structural strength that way?

All you'd need to do then is pull your legs up, swivel round and stand up. You'd even have the roll cage to pull yourself up with!

[Edited on 17/6/09 by David Jenkins]






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scootz

posted on 17/6/09 at 08:31 AM Reply With Quote
Helicopter... LOL!

The unfinished Ultima kit I have is a 1998 one... wasn't that expensive! Sold most of the component parts to fund the Radical (it has a 'story' too, so cost less than you would expect)!

Am keeping the Ultima chassis and Bodywork as a long term project... i.e it will sit in my garage roofspace for time evermore.

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