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Dangle_kt

posted on 5/7/09 at 08:46 PM Reply With Quote
the good points of a nanny state

I know we all moan about all the restrictions on our freedoms, but my bro in law brough back a few toys for the kids from his holiday to a greek island (cant remember which one)

The toys are death traps, one is a baby rattle and a 1cm sphere comes out of it - talk about choke hazzard! The other has very sharp little cymbals that can be wriggled free by little fingers no problem.

Thankfully my wife noticed and binned them - but I just took it for granted that a toy for kids is safe for kids.

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omega0684

posted on 5/7/09 at 08:57 PM Reply With Quote
i battle everyday with my sister, she feeds my 10 month old nephew whole grapes! i keep telling her to at least cut them in half and all i get is the responce

"he's my son i'll do what i wont with him!

it pi**es me write off

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Dangle_kt

posted on 5/7/09 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by omega0684
i battle everyday with my sister, she feeds my 10 month old nephew whole grapes! i keep telling her to at least cut them in half and all i get is the responce

"he's my son i'll do what i wont with him!

it pi**es me write off


ekk! one of the only foods you can't use the hymlic (sp?) manuvoue (sp? LOL!) on!

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coozer

posted on 5/7/09 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
Common sense I would say not nanny state.

Parents should always check things they give to there kids, mine used to get carrots to play with..

A spoon full of lemon juice when there young makes them think twice as well





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owelly

posted on 5/7/09 at 09:47 PM Reply With Quote
To be honest, those are bad points of a nanny state! If you're assuming that all things for kids are safe, then we're being lulled into a (not false!) sense of security that makes us trust things that we otherwise wouldn't. Having seen the sort of stuff available of market stalls and from overseas, not to mention the rubbish that gets sold at those car boot sales, it makes me even more aware of the things that are likely to maim/injur my kids. Although, these things are more likely to kill me.......
And the stuff that turns up at car boot sales are things I recognise from when I was a kid. I still have the scar from where I gashed my head open whilst using a Tonka Truck as a go-kart........





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SteveWalker

posted on 5/7/09 at 10:08 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by owelly
I still have the scar from where I gashed my head open whilst using a Tonka Truck as a go-kart........


Hmmm, my kids do that - no matter how much they are told off for it. The main worry is that they'll run over the youngest's fingers.

I find that the biggest problem is that many toys have parts that are not suitable for children under 36 months, but how do you keep them away when you've got a 5 year old, a 3 year old and a 16 monther?

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SteveWalker

posted on 5/7/09 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by omega0684
i battle everyday with my sister, she feeds my 10 month old nephew whole grapes! i keep telling her to at least cut them in half and all i get is the responce

"he's my son i'll do what i wont with him!

it pi**es me write off


I'm sure it was last year that there was a case of a toddler dying in the Manchester area from choking on a grape while in the checkout queue of a supermarket.

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Ivan

posted on 6/7/09 at 07:32 AM Reply With Quote
I believe that kids should be placed at risk of minor injury on a regular basis, things like hammering their fingers with a toy hammer etc. It teaches them very quickly to recognise dangerous behaviour and avoid it as they learn that things can go wrong and it can hurt when they do.

Of course feeding babies whole grapes is just plain stupid and is most probably done because the mother never had the above philosophy applied to her, and is not aware that stupid actions can have very bad consequences.

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nick205

posted on 6/7/09 at 08:38 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Ivan
I believe that kids should be placed at risk of minor injury on a regular basis, things like hammering their fingers with a toy hammer etc. It teaches them very quickly to recognise dangerous behaviour and avoid it as they learn that things can go wrong and it can hurt when they do.



Spot on

Kids, especially younger ones, are incapable of listening to adult reasoning. I'm not saying they're daft, they just haven't developed the skill of listening and understanding.

Me - "don't swing on the chair"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Me - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Me - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off and hurt yourself"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Wife - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off and hurt yourself"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Me - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off and hurt yourself"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Wife - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off and hurt yourself"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Me - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off and hurt yourself"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Wife - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off and hurt yourself"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Me - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off and hurt yourself"

Our 3 yr old - keeps swinging...!

Wife - "don't swing on the chair, you'll fall off and hurt yourself"


C-R-A-S-H........AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHH! I've hurt myself...!


Me - "I told you"

Our 3 yr old - "I'm not going to swing on the chair anymore daddy"

Minor bump/bruise, dented confidence, bur LESSON LEARNED

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smart51

posted on 6/7/09 at 08:46 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
i battle everyday with my sister, she feeds my 10 month old nephew whole grapes! i keep telling her to at least cut them in half and all i get is the responce

"he's my son i'll do what i wont with him!

it pi**es me write off


feeding big food to small children is like tailgating. You get away with it for so long you think it is perfectly safe. Then you find out it isn't. Hopefully she'll get away with it. We still cut grapes in half for our 1 year old.


As far as "nanny state" type rules go, insisting that your product is safe is not the nanny state. That is a set of rules to stop you from risking harm to yourself. Product regulations are to stop you selling things that are harmful to others.






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