Jon Ison
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| posted on 1/11/06 at 05:51 PM |
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Just back from.......
The land of BT Broadband oblivion, apparently listening too there recorded messages there are still plenty of BT customers without any service,
something too do with them been attacked by a virus ?
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phelpsa
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| posted on 1/11/06 at 05:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
The land of BT Broadband oblivion, apparently listening too there recorded messages there are still plenty of BT customers without any service,
something too do with them been attacked by a virus ?
AIDS!
So thats what BT get upto when they're supposed to be fixing telephone lines?
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 1/11/06 at 05:54 PM |
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Could be!
They're too slow to catch a cold!
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 1/11/06 at 05:58 PM |
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I'm in colchester, no bb yesterday!
they said our exchange is connected to Manchester and that's where the problem is !
so how can that give me no bb as im 250 miles away from them!
swmbo says its kids they pinched the server as a trick or treat thing !
[Edited on 1/11/06 by ch1ll1]
[Edited on 1/11/06 by ch1ll1]
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JackNco
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| posted on 1/11/06 at 06:11 PM |
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im sorry, if my ISP was so lax in security a virus took there entire system down ide quit instantly, imagine how much data they hold on you...
including the encryption keys to your details and accounts............ FUCK THAT SHIT
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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wilkingj
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| posted on 1/11/06 at 09:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JackNco
im sorry, if my ISP was so lax in security a virus took there entire system down ide quit instantly, imagine how much data they hold on you...
including the encryption keys to your details and accounts............ FUCK THAT SHIT
Ah... Well informed comments.
I bet you have no idea of the network topography involved at an ISP's Data Centre.
All your sensitive account data is locked away on heavily protected and firewalled servers.
You dont honestly expect people to believe that the accounts and credit card details are kept on the front end servers.
Authentication is commonly done by Radius servers which send encrypted data to and from those heavily protected database servers via a network of
firewalls and back end connections that are just not physically accessible from the front end users.
Network and server security is a complex subject if its done seriously.
One thing you can guarantee is that the ISP's servers are more secure than your home PC:
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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JackNco
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| posted on 1/11/06 at 09:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
quote:
Originally posted by JackNco
im sorry, if my ISP was so lax in security a virus took there entire system down ide quit instantly, imagine how much data they hold on you...
including the encryption keys to your details and accounts............ FUCK THAT SHIT
Ah... Well informed comments.
I bet you have no idea of the network topography involved at an ISP's Data Centre.
All your sensitive account data is locked away on heavily protected and firewalled servers.
You dont honestly expect people to believe that the accounts and credit card details are kept on the front end servers.
Authentication is commonly done by Radius servers which send encrypted data to and from those heavily protected database servers via a network of
firewalls and back end connections that are just not physically accessible from the front end users.
Network and server security is a complex subject if its done seriously.
One thing you can guarantee is that the ISP's servers are more secure than your home PC:
LOL ok fair comment that was NOT the most well constructed comment in the world. Put it down to Lack of sleep
But i do have a good understanding of *ISP Network Topology* although i wouldn't call it a topology as that Usually identifies an individual
Network or interconnection of a single Network. im actualy doing a BSC in Network Computing. My point was that ANY virus allowed to get on to the
ISP and spread to the extent that it caused that much damage is a VERY bad thing and that Security is compromised in a big way.
If BT Are slow enough to allow it to spread that far i woudlnt trust them. i am aware that Account information is not stored on the same servers that
handel the actual internet gubbins, and any Keys for encryption are generaly stored off the network.
But Mistakes are made and ide say thats what caused this cock up
In short i wouldn't stand for it from my ISP
John
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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TimC
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| posted on 2/11/06 at 08:59 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JackNco
I bet you have no idea of the network topography involved at an ISP's Data Centre.
Geeky sentence of the day...
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MikeR
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| posted on 2/11/06 at 09:36 AM |
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Even worse i've had to sit in meetings where the network infrastructure for the NHS was discussed, then how we interface a partners network to
that and the resultant security stuff........
and i'm not a network bod 
(and i'd like to claim i mostly understood it - the joys of doing one module in networking 15 years ago)
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JackNco
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| posted on 2/11/06 at 09:49 AM |
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i never said that! that was wilkingj!
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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wilkingj
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| posted on 2/11/06 at 10:05 PM |
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Cooo!!
Do I get an award for Geeky "Sentence of the day"??
That one came off the top of my head... I didnt even use my 3 word wheel!!
Trouble with new virus's is that you cant combat them until after they have struck. As you dont know what to look for codewise.
All you can do is to look for suspicious behaviour..
bit of chicken and egg sort of job.
Good luck with your course JackNco.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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JackNco
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| posted on 2/11/06 at 10:10 PM |
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Cheers, sorry for the reply i think i worded it a bit strong n wasnt in a great mood, handnt slept in a few days, uni stress n stuff.
Didnt mean to sound that abrupt. and yes the binary strings cant be traced until its been discovered but i bet if u looked in to it the real mistake
was some boob bringing in a disk from home n everything going tits up .
All the best 2 u 2
John
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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