matt.c
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 posted on 4/2/07 at 10:51 PM |
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Toilet Question?
My toilet has just started playing up!
It wont always flush now and you have to pump it like mad to get it to go.
Anyone know what is wrong with it and how to fix it? By the way its a "IDEAL STANDARD" toilet system.
Any help would be appreciated
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Wadders
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 10:53 PM |
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sounds like it needs a new syphon assembly.
Originally posted by matt.c
My toilet has just started playing up!
It wont always flush now and you have to pump it like mad to get it to go.
Anyone know what is wrong with it and how to fix it? By the way its a "IDEAL STANDARD" toilet system.
Any help would be appreciated
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Stu16v
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 10:56 PM |
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Depend on the flushing arrangement.
If it is a syphon system, it is probably the diaphragm has split, that 'lifts' the water up the main tube.
Mine went over the Xmas holidays a few years ago. I made a new one out of an old icew cream tub lid to keep it going 
A new syphon system is less than a tenner from screwfix etc...
Dont just build it.....make it!
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graememk
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 10:56 PM |
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god i hope you get it fixed or you'll really be in the sh1t
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JoelP
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 11:02 PM |
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ditto, ive had the little flaps that lift water break up, if you can pump like mad to make it lift then one is probably still intact. You can buy
replacements flaps rather than a full assembly, or as said, make another. Not that hard as it doesnt need to be a perfect fit, just good enough to
lift some water over the bend and start the syphon
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matt.c
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 11:03 PM |
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Is this bit the problem?
How does it fix on the bottom, is it just stuck with sealer or what?
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JoelP
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 11:06 PM |
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turn off the water and drain (hopefully there will be a valve just for the toilet). Unscrew the butterfly nuts that hold the cystern to the toilet,
lift it clear. The syphon bit (green in the middle) protrudes through the bottom and is held on with a large plastic nut usually. Caution, its easy to
break on tightening. Remove, dissemble, fix and reassemble! Once its out it will be obvious what's wrong.
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tegwin
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 11:12 PM |
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Thats kinda bizare....
Seeing pics of a guys crapper on a kit car website...
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matt.c
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 11:12 PM |
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Ok thanks everyone.
Will have to do what you say and see how i get on.
Big thanks again
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mark chandler
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 11:23 PM |
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Bit of plastic milk bottle diapham has lasted 3 years on mine, and thats with 5 people in the house !
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Avoneer
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 11:43 PM |
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The foamy bits are a bit worrying though!
Now is the time to upgrade to a turbo flush.
Less than £20 from Wickes.
Result is a light touch handle and quick re-fill (if you have to double-flush ;-)) and silent as the water enters the cistern from the bottom.
Pat...
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Peteff
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| posted on 4/2/07 at 11:50 PM |
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Put a stick across the top and tie the ball up to it to stop it refilling then flush what you can or syphon it. The big plastic nut underneath the
cistern round the pipe is what holds it in place and seals it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 12:16 AM |
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Well as you posted on the locost site I recommend the locost solution of keeping a bucket of water by the side of the bog and using it.
Good luck
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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Danozeman
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 06:36 AM |
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Theres not enough limescale in there!!!! U must have reasonable water where u are!!
They are a piece of wee to do. Follow what people have said so far. A hole new flush is only a fiver from b n q.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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britishtrident
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 08:49 AM |
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Yes the plastic flap in the syphon assembly is cracking up --- some times caused by use of strong cleaning chemical in the cistern but mainly because
of poor quality parts.
Strongly suggest you ditch the syphon and fit the more modern "Turbo flush" flap valve type -- conversion kit costs about 13 quid from
B&Q or about 18 if you go for a Push button conversion.
[Edited on 5/2/07 by britishtrident]
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bartonp
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 08:59 AM |
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Will anyone suggest a BET?
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NS Dev
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 09:23 AM |
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LOL
where is Hellfire!?
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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geoff shep
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 02:16 PM |
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Wholeheartedly agree with britishtrident having done the same recently. I would take the opportunity to update. I really recommend the non-syphon
systems and replace the ballcock with a torbeck or similar valve they are quick and very quiet filling. You can get flap valves to replace the syphon
with either handles or push buttons. This Double
button flush (long and short flush) and this
bottom entry valve cost less than £20
together. They are available as sets from B&Q for a similar amount and have built in overflows ie they overflow down into the toilet, so you can
bin your overflow pipe too. Well worth it.
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matt.c
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 08:42 PM |
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Ok, went to B&Q tonight and got myself a super-duper TURBO FLUSHING SYSTEM!!
Cool
Looks a great bit of kit, opened it to find out not all the parts were there
Bu**er!
Then looking at the push button which goes on the front, only to realize it fouls the seat!
So its going back!
Back to B&Q i go tomorrow to exchange it for a standard unit!
Life is such a load of poo!
And another night of using the bucket to flush!
Cheers for all the help gentleman and thanks to steve for the U2U.
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geoff shep
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 08:57 PM |
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Unlucky - don't want to state the bl**din obvious but does the seat foul the button when the cistern lid is on?
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matt.c
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 09:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by geoff shep
Unlucky - don't want to state the bl**din obvious but does the seat foul the button when the cistern lid is on?
Yes it does because the button sits further out than the lid! Not to worry because i will just get the standard stuff.
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geoff shep
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 09:06 PM |
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Ah well - sorry we led you up the garden path. You can get handle operated flappy valves I think.
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matt.c
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| posted on 5/2/07 at 09:10 PM |
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Will look tomorrow for one, cheers geoff.
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