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tegwin

posted on 16/8/08 at 10:18 AM Reply With Quote
OT moving phone points?

I am just planing a home network upgrade to incorporate a Firewall/VPN tunnel, a 1Gbit infrastructure and a Raid-5 NAS box...

I want to centralize all of the "little boxes" so this will mean extending the phone cable by about 15 meters.. (Its already about 15M from the box on the outside of the house to the phone point)

Will having such a long phone cable slow the connection down?

We only have a 2Mb/sec connection anyway....

(as an aside, anyone have any experience with Thecus NAS boxes?





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joneh

posted on 16/8/08 at 10:20 AM Reply With Quote
I'd put the router near the phone and run a cat5 to your switching gear.

Or just try it on a 15m extension lead and see if it slows down.






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blakep82

posted on 16/8/08 at 10:37 AM Reply With Quote
i would think, with the distance you are likely to be from the phone exchange, and extra 15m won't make much of a difference

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britishtrident

posted on 16/8/08 at 11:07 AM Reply With Quote
It would be better leaving the router near the phone point and running cat5 or these days cat6e to a cheap switched hub.

I don't know Thecus NAS I have been running NAS boxes on the home network for a couple of years, I started out with FreeNAS on an old cast off pc but swapped to a basic single drive NAS box bought from Maplin as a bare bones unit for £40. It has run 24/7 for 18 months without a glitch and is mainly used for unattended nightly backups of critical directories from the Windows pc (all done automatically using Cobian Backup freeware)

NAS boxes tend to run firmware based on cut down version of Windows NT, you have to be careful with passwords and the setup of personal areas & directories on the NAS box, if your NAS box has the option of setting up secure FTP directories this is very useful. One thing you have to watch is that it may try and act as a a DCHP server for the network -- best to disable this. I also found that it was better to use a fixed IP address for the NAS box and arrange that the router (which acts as DCHP and DNS server for the network) to reserve the address for the NAS box but not all routers allow this. Also it is a good idea to enter the fixed iP address and host name of the nas box in the windows PCs hosts & localhosts files

One of the reasons I use Cobian backup is it has the option of doing backups and archiving by FTP, When I need to access the the FTP directories from Windows PCs I use FileZilla which is just like using the old Windows 3 file manager Filezilla also exists for Linux.



[Edited on 16/8/08 by britishtrident]

[Edited on 16/8/08 by britishtrident]

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britishtrident

posted on 16/8/08 at 11:15 AM Reply With Quote
This what I use

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?TabID=1&criteria=usb&ModuleNo=97390&doy=search&C=SO&U=Strat15





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geoff shep

posted on 16/8/08 at 12:44 PM Reply With Quote
My phone comes into the house in the corner of the lounge. From there (built in when new) an extension runs up to a socket in the bedroom. I have run another extension from there up into the loft, across the house and down into the back bedroom/study. The router is plugged into that and its fine, 6-7 Mbps usually.
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splitrivet

posted on 16/8/08 at 01:02 PM Reply With Quote
You'll have no problems extending you Phone line just make sure youve got a filter on all telecoms gear including Skybox.
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Jasper

posted on 16/8/08 at 02:56 PM Reply With Quote
I just bought myself one of those telecom tools for putting the wires into the back of telephone and Cat5 boxes - about £5 from Ebay - and I got some Cat5 faceplates too very cheap.

Much easier than trying to do it with a Stanley blade!





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britishtrident

posted on 16/8/08 at 02:59 PM Reply With Quote
Now that the subject of filters has been raised this filtered face plate is what I use on the master sockets of both my ADSL lines. BT recommend them for getting the best line speed.

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xte2005.php

You can also fit these filtered extension sockets

http://www.adslnation.com/products/xtf.php





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geoff shep

posted on 21/8/08 at 10:53 AM Reply With Quote
What is 'centerlaized' filtration I wonder.

I guess that one would only work with your router positioned near the main socket.

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Marcus

posted on 21/8/08 at 11:50 AM Reply With Quote
Rather than networking the house in cat5, i put the router centrally and, since my house is covered in mains wires, I'm using Dlan, lan through the mains. I have to say I'm really impressed, a few network points in every room (including the garage!) all for 65 quid.





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