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Author: Subject: Punish the motorist again.
Peteff

posted on 12/1/04 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
Punish the motorist again.

I've just been listening to the news and the government are advocating adding £5 to speeding fines and £10 to jailable motoring offences like no insurance to pay for criminal compensation. So if I get burgled the motoring fraternity will be sponsoring the nerk who robs me instead of making the ones who do the actual crimes and get caught pay for the ones who get away with it. You couldn't make it up, could you?

yours, Pete.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Mk-Ninja

posted on 12/1/04 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
I think this lot have lost the plot, the trouble is whats the alternative, there all as bad. The worlds gone mad.

Think I might have to start a locost boat and get out

Gordon;





I'm sure I've got one, just don't know where I've put it

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JoelP

posted on 12/1/04 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
i think its £5 extra every time you get caught.

personally, i believe the all criminals should pay for the full damage of their crimes, plus the expense of catching them, plus rent whilst in jail. That would sort thieves out soon enough...

moral of the speeding thing is, dont speed where you will get caught. like long straight country roads...

seems OK in leeds, cops dont seem to bother me.






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Stu16v

posted on 12/1/04 at 10:26 PM Reply With Quote
quote:

personally, i believe the all criminals should pay for the full damage of their crimes, plus the expense of catching them, plus rent whilst in jail. That would sort thieves out soon enough...



In an ideal world I would agree. But there again, in an ideal world, these ba*tards wouldnt exist anyway. Where would they get the money from to pay their fines? By commiting more offences unfortunately....

Make them work to pay their dues. For 5p an hour......if they are well behaved





Dont just build it.....make it!

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 12/1/04 at 10:56 PM Reply With Quote
labour seem to be on a suidice mission to alienate as many of the 28 million car driving voters in this country as they can.




1. you cant park 51cm from the kerb
2. you cant do 34 mph without getting a 60 fine and approx 1/4 of your license and livelyhood shagged
3. traffic wardens that will try and nick you for everything.
4. a fiver for victim support as you are a criminal. the best bit is if you get jail you get a 30 quid fine, as if being jailed for a motoring offence is gonna make a 30 quid fine significant!

Then, we have someone in the media that speaks about arabs in a non PC way and a witch hunt starts

then there is the 'cant have hot water un your bath' nanny state rule being debated

totally f u c ke d

atb

steve

[Edited on 12/1/04 by stephen_gusterson]






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bob

posted on 13/1/04 at 12:10 AM Reply With Quote
Kilroy-silk has made a good point,the arabs are right.

just chop a limb of the the offenders that will cure the problem

No wonder more people are emigrating






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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 13/1/04 at 12:20 AM Reply With Quote
Here is an experiment phone the Zcar drivers and report that your car has been broken into........then phone your local pizza delivery man and order a delivery...........NOW SEE WHO TURNS UP FIRST>>>>> ............................................................
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bob

posted on 13/1/04 at 12:40 AM Reply With Quote
Yep your right

and i think i've worked out the reasoning on this one.

Over crowded prisons

the enforcment agencies seem hell bent on nicking people for let us say pay as you go offences,obviously its easy money and secondly the jails dont get overfilled.

If they keep catching burglars and murderers it will cost more in building more prisons.






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stephen_gusterson

posted on 13/1/04 at 01:07 AM Reply With Quote
nah

the local pizza hut in mk has always got a big queue outside - but they still deliver.....






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stephen_gusterson

posted on 13/1/04 at 01:08 AM Reply With Quote
thing is, a fiver on a sixty pound fine aint gonna be noticed much by me.

my lack of vote for labor next time might be......






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Peteff

posted on 13/1/04 at 09:41 AM Reply With Quote
phone the Zcar drivers

I had my Clio stolen 3 years ago on a Saturday night. I reported it and the police never even came to see me. It was not found and I had to contact them again to get a case number for the insurance. Still no police involvement. Total waste of time, I finished up about £2000 out after it was all sorted but that bill has to be footed by me.

yours, Pete.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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JoelP

posted on 13/1/04 at 10:14 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stu16v
Where would they get the money from to pay their fines? By commiting more offences unfortunately....


your right of course, but really the crims need to be shown the hard way.

plus they shouldnt be allowed to moan about alleged human rights violations (ie getting beaten when the get caught, or injuring themselves tripping over your slippers whilst borrowing your car keys...)

caveat feles...






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mackie

posted on 13/1/04 at 10:43 AM Reply With Quote
I become enraged when I hear about burglars who litigate against home owners they are trying to burgle. There was a guy who came in through a skylight and fell on a knife, and he won.
There was and old bloke who got done after hitting a 20-something intruder with an iron poker while trying to protect his wife of 50 years too, fucking sick. What's he meant to do, 70 yr old man cannot fight a 20yr old to the ground by himself, by they deemed it to be excessive force. People should have the right to defend themselves in their own homes.

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theconrodkid

posted on 13/1/04 at 11:13 AM Reply With Quote
a dog is the best deterent,closley followed by a baseball bat





who cares who wins
pass the pork pies

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ned

posted on 13/1/04 at 12:00 PM Reply With Quote
A friend of a friend found his car had been broken into and rang the police. He wanted someone to come out, they said they didn't have anyone available. He then said he thought he'd seen a man he suspected was the culprit in his garden with what he thought was a gun. they were there within 15 mins.

just goes to show.

Ned.

ps he should have said it was an arab with a gun, they'd probably have been threre in 5 mins in that case!





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 13/1/04 at 12:21 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
a dog is the best deterent,closley followed by a baseball bat


you cant take a baseball bat for walkies, and it cant fetch a stick, being one itself.

I thought id just add this abstract pearl of wisdom

atb

steve






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GO

posted on 13/1/04 at 12:33 PM Reply With Quote
So whats the score if your dog bites the burglars knackers off then?

Apart from a vital removal from the gene pool, whats gonna happen?

Can you still be done for not having control over your dog? Or will the poor blighter be put down for doing the country and planet a service?

[Edited on 13/1/2004 by GO]

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timf

posted on 13/1/04 at 12:48 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GO
So whats the score if your dog bites the burglars knackers off then?

Apart from a vital removal from the gene pool, whats gonna happen?

Can you still be done for not having control over your dog? Or will the poor blighter be put down for doing the country and planet a service?

[Edited on 13/1/2004 by GO]


depends if your names princess anne

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JoelP

posted on 13/1/04 at 01:37 PM Reply With Quote
burglars who plan on facing a dog usually have WD40 (i think thats the one) to squirt in its eyes. bad news for the poor mutt...

my brothers godfather got blinded by armed robbers who chucked ammonia in his eyes.


anyone see that wall of silence last night? should be life NO parole in those cases. maybe some system of public voting to determine sentences. shame most people are muppets who cant seem to judge right from wrong anyway...






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theconrodkid

posted on 13/1/04 at 01:43 PM Reply With Quote
anyone who enters my place does at their own risk,i would kill them and see what happend later,my dog would only be doing his duty,there is summat bout this on the box tonight i think





who cares who wins
pass the pork pies

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theconrodkid

posted on 13/1/04 at 01:44 PM Reply With Quote
what about the drug dealer caught with a gun,said he did a dangerous job and needed it for protection,got away with it!muppets indeed





who cares who wins
pass the pork pies

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James

posted on 13/1/04 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
Apologies to those who listen to the programme and have heard all this before:

There's been a law debate on Radio 4's Today programme recently and they held a 'people's law' article where they firstly encouraged people to write in suggest new laws and they got some tame MP to agree (in advance) to sponsor the winner's law through parliament. Once a selection of suitable laws had been made listeners were able to vote on their favourite.

It's all here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/reports/misc/law_result_20040101.shtml

From various things I've heard since the government/media have all been rather surprised at the result!

For those that can't be arsed to read all the link- basically the winning law was that homeowners should be able to defend the homes with any means necessary!

With any luck it'll get through....

James

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Metal Hippy

posted on 13/1/04 at 02:59 PM Reply With Quote
On Christmas Eve a panel chose a shortlist of five ideas. Their decision was based largely on popularity but they also threw out ideas which were patently unreasonable - the beheading of people caught towing caravans during daylight hours, for example.

Why is that unreasonable?





Cock off or cock on. You choose.

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timf

posted on 13/1/04 at 03:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James


With any luck it'll get through....

James


the mp who said he would back it as a private members bill has unsurprisingly done a 360 and questioned the parentage of the listeners who voted.
but then that sums up the government, who needs to listen to the majority of people who you are supposed to represent.

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timf

posted on 13/1/04 at 03:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Metal Hippy
On Christmas Eve a panel chose a shortlist of five ideas. Their decision was based largely on popularity but they also threw out ideas which were patently unreasonable - the beheading of people caught towing caravans during daylight hours, for example.

Why is that unreasonable?


that would get rid of gunderwosit then

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