cadebytiger
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:08 PM |
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Pug 306 dirty D
hey there
Have been getting some trouble with my tintop for a while now. Seems quite reluctant to start. Sounds like it is running on 3 cylinders until you boot
the gas - then it runs fine.
I don't know much about Dirty diesels. Could it be a glow plug?? 1.9 XUD (turbo D) engine.
Thanks again for any help you can give
Rupert
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:13 PM |
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Glow plugs just warm the air before starting. When the engine is running, the glow plugs arnt used. Could be an injector.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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maartenromijn
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:13 PM |
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Does it continue running fine after the first time you hit the gas?
If so, it is most probably the glowplug. You can check this by measuring the electrical resistance over the individual plugs. If 1 out of 4 is
different, replace it. They should not be that expensive.
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locoboy
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:16 PM |
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I trust the pre heat light comes on and goes out like it should?
If so then i would try putting the pre heat on 2 or 3 times before starting it and see if that makes a difference.
If that makes no difference i would have a quick visual check of the pre heat wiring and components - test them if you can and know how.
Also worth a check if you can, is to see if the fuel line in the engine bay has air bubbles in it or not - i had one that was sucking air in and was a
bitch to start and was lumpy as hell until it sucked it through and ran on 100% diesel. (mine had a clear fuel pipe in it for some reason)
If the repeated preheat does the trick then i would go for the glow plugs, only a few quid each to replace and it aint worth changing one or 2 just do
the lot and be done with it.
If none of the above sorts it out then it may be time to look deeper into the pre heat circuit, timer, wiring relay etc etc.
you will need to jump on it quick as it will be a total pig to start with the temp dropping just a ccouple of degrees from what it is now, let alone
into the frost zone or below.
ATB
Locoboy
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Agriv8
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:18 PM |
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Likley to be a Glow plug is it worse the colder the morning ???
I would also Try some Redex derv injector cleaner through it. once every coulpe of months
Regards
Agriv8
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:18 PM |
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mine does that and somtimes i only get 2 to start with
quick test: when you go to start the car leave the key in the glo plug heater stage for an extra 15 seconds and see if it it starts propper if it does
then glo plugs r on way out
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maartenromijn
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:18 PM |
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quote:
Glow plugs just warm the air before starting. When the engine is running, the glow plugs arnt used. Could be an injector.
I guess a 306 doesn't have a common rail diesel engine. Hence there is no electrical injector. Normally when a nozzle ends it life it will
produce black smoke (unburnt diesel) from the exhaust.
Since the engine is running the fuel pump is good (enough).
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cadebytiger
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:24 PM |
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thanks guys!!
sounds like the glow plugs to me then. is worse when cold and leaving heater on longer seems to help a little. I will give them a change and see where
is am then.
Thanks again!
Rupert
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UncleFista
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 01:43 PM |
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Glow plugs on the turbo XUD stay on for a couple of minutes after starting to aid cold running.
Replace 'em with a decent make, Beru are OEM and are cheap enough from GSF.
Avoid Halfords ones, there's a few horror stories of 'em not lasting very long.
[Edited on 21/10/08 by UncleFista]
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Agriv8
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 02:10 PM |
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Do they still hide one of the blighters behind the Derv pump that is a real PITA to get at ?
Oh happy days Not 
regards
Agriv8
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blakep82
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 05:43 PM |
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tried a compression test? maybe a different kettle of fish, but one of my dads cars ran like that, and it was a burnt out valve with a hole in it. no
compression on slow running, so ran on 3 cylinders, but at higher revs the air couldn't escape fast enough so it fired
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cadebytiger
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| posted on 21/10/08 at 06:02 PM |
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thanks everyone.
Will try a comp test as well as changing the glows plugs.
Got a GSF not far from here so will pop over at the weekend.
even having been a member of this site for a good few years now, it still amazes me what a great bunch you all are!
Thanks! Rupert
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