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coyoteboy

posted on 9/11/11 at 04:13 PM Reply With Quote
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My personal thoughts are not about it being dangerous but the cost to the tax payer and the effect it has on other areas of the Forces where manpower is short.



Which is why you raised the question in relation to the safety and recent incidents with the planes? Kind of puts across my point though - why ask this question (with no hint of your ulterior motives) in the first place, why not just ask "are they a waste of cash"?

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scootz

posted on 9/11/11 at 04:24 PM Reply With Quote
If that's the case, then it's a gross waste of the taxpayers money IMHO!

The fact that 2 servicemen have lost their lives this year in connection with such 'non essential' MOD duties just makes it an even more ridiculous affair.





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bobinspain

posted on 9/11/11 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by scootz
If that's the case, then it's a gross waste of the taxpayers money IMHO!

The fact that 2 servicemen have lost their lives this year in connection with such 'non essential' MOD duties just makes it an even more ridiculous affair.




The Red Arrows are fabulous ambassadors for the RAF and UK plc. Many overseas orders for the Hawk and other materiel (sic) have been sealed on the back of displays that the Red Arrows have put on.

They are regarded with awe and admiration worldwide (including overseas display teams) and set a standard of excellence most 'normal folk' couldn't even dream of, much less aspire to.

Theirs is the culmination of (inter alia) 10 years dedication to developing their skills, split-second timing and reflexes that make F1 drivers blush. (I know, I spoke to Nigel Mansell when he visited the Lightning boys at RAF Binrbook in the 80s).

You really should broaden your horizons and get out more.

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scootz

posted on 9/11/11 at 05:26 PM Reply With Quote
We're fighting wars overseas and those involved don't have the equipment and numbers they need because the MOD can't afford to give either to them.

If they can't afford that, then they can't afford a plaything like the RA's.





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franky

posted on 9/11/11 at 07:10 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by coyoteboy
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My personal thoughts are not about it being dangerous but the cost to the tax payer and the effect it has on other areas of the Forces where manpower is short.



Which is why you raised the question in relation to the safety and recent incidents with the planes? Kind of puts across my point though - why ask this question (with no hint of your ulterior motives) in the first place, why not just ask "are they a waste of cash"?


Loss of pilots is what I meant, 2 fully trained and experienced personnel lost and the effect it has on everyone including their families for no real reason.

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