Guinness
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:00 PM |
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Potential it's a scam?
My Landrover is still up for sale. Shamless bump here!:-
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=102102
I've had a few people interested, but all seem to have lost interest after a while 
However I have one guy who is mega keen to buy the car. Trouble is I think I'm becoming paranoid and he's going to try to scam me 
He's from Holland, and at first he wanted to pay me a deposit via paypal / IBAN etc. This set alarm bells going, so I said no, turn up with
the full whack in cash and you can drive it away there and then.
He has phoned me several times, and emailed me his address / contact details.
Now he is flying over from Holland to Newcastle on Sunday to buy the car.
Assuming he turns up with the money, can anyone see any problem with selling him the car for cash there and then?
Mike
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rayward
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:03 PM |
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only thing i can think of is checking the notes aren;t forged.
in the past i;ve put the money in the bank before i;ve let them take the car, that way the bank check its ok
hth
Ray
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StevieB
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:04 PM |
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I'd say as long as you record the sale and make sure it's proper cash not fake, then why not?
Might be worth meeting him somewhere convenient (say at the airport?) rather than at your home though, and taking someone with you (cos you'll
need a lift home anyway)
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mookaloid
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:05 PM |
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check the cash is real,
have a couple of big mates handy 
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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greggors84
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:06 PM |
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My brother had someone fly over from Ireland after him trying to transfer a deposit over. My brother said same as you, come over Ill meet you and you
can pay in cash.
He flew over, my brother met him at the airport as he only lives a few miles from Luton airport. Then the bloke said the car wasnt as advertised (even
though there wasnt a scratch on it or anything he couldnt complain about) tried knocking loads of the price. He ended up leaving it and flying back
after my brother would only knock a small amount off.
Very bizarre, I think he had family in Luton (loads of Irish in Luton) and was coming over anyway and thought it might be an oppourtunity to score a
cheap car. Maybe some people feel bad as they have come all that way to buy a car and let it go for cheaper than they should.
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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greggors84
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rayward
only thing i can think of is checking the notes aren;t forged.
in the past i;ve put the money in the bank before i;ve let them take the car, that way the bank check its ok
hth
Ray
Just thought I would add that this is a very good idea. Try and meet him near a bank and at a time when it will be open. Then you can go into the bank
and cash the money. Once its in your account its their problem if its fake. Obviously this doesnt work with cheques!
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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Guinness
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:11 PM |
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Thanks lads
Mike
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davie h
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:12 PM |
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as above check the cash is real i have a small uv light that i use it shows up the hidden pattern on money and passports
Davie
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24179682@N04/?saved=1
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thunderace
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:15 PM |
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rub some notes on white paper real notes are dye and will rub off fake note wont rub off. also look at the numbers sound daft but i sold a motorbike
and seen 3 £50 with the same number on them .they looked very real it was my mrs who counted and cheaked them and spoted the fackes i always give him
the papers and mot to look at as gives him somthing to check giving you more time to cheack the cash.he stuck £500 in in fakes and the rest real,he
spun then in the tumble dryer for ten mins with new real ones to make them look real and used.
get a pen and rub it on all the notes.
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r1_pete
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:20 PM |
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Mmm Sunday, dont want to add to your paranoia, but that means you cant meet him at a bank and get the notes checked on the spot, he can be well clear
before you find out they're fake.
As above make sure you can check the notes...
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Danozeman
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:20 PM |
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As said, he'l try and knock you down.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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jambojeef
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:26 PM |
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Ah, put it this way - what the worst that could happen dude........?!
Is he paying in sterling? Used notes?
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Guinness
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jambojeef
Ah, put it this way - what the worst that could happen dude........?!
Is he paying in sterling? Used notes?
Yup, Sterling, notes.
Any chance you could come over Geoff and help me get the seats fitted / prep it this weekend?
Cheers
Mike
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:37 PM |
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I'm known for being cynical, to the point of upsetting just about anyone, but please just be careful.
The hassle with selling things is why I still have so much accumulation - including my Land Rover. Having spent so much time rebuilding it, I just
can't bring myself to deal with the timewasters.
However, yes, I have sold abroad. I sold my ex-race car to a guy in Ireland. I was VERY dubious about it all. He didn't see the car, just sent
an international cheque over which cashed OK (I keep it for 3 weeks to clear). He then organised a 'mate' to blindly come and collect the
car, actually to drag the thing away on a dolly (so he asked lots of unlikely questions on the lines of weight/steering/suspension etc.). Pretty
amazingly, said mate did turn up, no problem, and the car went.
So yep, strange purchasing schemes do happen.
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jambojeef
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 09:37 PM |
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Yeah defo dude!
What time you gonna be working on the old girl?
Need me to bring owt in particular?
Might be getting me TR1 back with that tank done (after 2 years) on sat morning but after that should be cool?
Geoff
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snippy
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 10:00 PM |
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Thinking logically, he`s going to lots of expense with catching a single flight over. He`s then got the expense of a ferry crossing back not to
mention the fuel costs of driving it all the way back to Holland. Would it be really worth his while unles he`s getting an absolute bargain? Be on
your guard. If he wants the car that badly then make sure you do `business` on your terms!
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peteday_uk@btinternet.com
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 11:16 PM |
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THIS WILL BE A SCAM!!!!
BEWARE............
I could bore you with countless stories as I work at a Honda dealership and see all kind of e-mail and take all kind of phone calls.
Best bet try and get someone who lives in the UK to buy your car. Selling privately is always a risk though.
Pete.
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MikeR
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| posted on 18/12/08 at 11:28 PM |
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don't see the issue, he's getting the car for nothing.
He comes over on his own. pays you & drives off. You then get mugged with x pounds taken from you.
he's happy, you're not.
Be careful, very careful - he could be genuine and i hope he is, but make sure we're not reading on here about you being done in a week or two.
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mark chandler
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| posted on 19/12/08 at 12:36 AM |
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I sold a v12 jag engine and box to someone in holland, he turned up as agreed paid the money and took the engine away. No problem at all.
I think stuff like this is scarce/very expensive over there so travel and purchase is cheaper. Once you have the cash in hand and a sales receipt what
more do you need. Plenty of people in the UK will try and fleece you.
Regards Mark
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Humbug
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| posted on 19/12/08 at 08:17 AM |
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Could be dodgy, but if he has spoken several times and you have got some details, may be OK.
I sold a kit car to a guy from Germany. He came over and paid in cash, left the car and papers with me for the day while he went sightseeing in London
for the day (and while I went to the bank to put the cash in  ) and then turned up in the evening to get the car and drive off. I filled in the V5
and also took the precaution of scanning his German ID card with name and address on, just in case I had any issues with DVLA.
I kept thinking I was going to get a call from him on the motorway to Dover or something, but not a peep.
My advice would be as above - check out all the money and just be on the lookout for anything "not right". You could google the name and
address details to see if they really exist. e.g. here you can find people in NL (assuming
he's not ex-directory).
Good luck
Simon
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sorens2
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| posted on 19/12/08 at 08:39 AM |
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I buy a lot of things in the UK, US, Germany....... because it is much cheaper than here in Denmark.
I often have this reaction. People think I wan´t to scam them.
If he has a bankcheque or cash it would be allright.
Søren S2
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/12/08 at 09:02 AM |
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Why not ask him if he can turn up on a weekday?
Once he's seen the car and you've agreed a price, you can both walk to the nearest bank and pay the cash in. Once the bank acceepts the
notes then any forgeries are their problem, and you don't risk being mugged as you don't have the cash on you.
You can take the V5 with you and do the signing over in the bank, if he's wary.
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carpmart
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| posted on 19/12/08 at 09:04 AM |
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Why is he coming from Holland to buy your car? The answer is currency exchange rates!
The pound has weakened very significantly against the Euro. This means that he is getting your car for at least a 30% discount over where it was 4
months back. More 'Euro zone' Europeans, with the strong Euro in relation to the pound, will be traveling to the UK to buy all sorts!
Perversely, I heard the other day that there is a massive influx of French day trippers to Marks and Spencer stores near Calais. All we need to do
now is set up an 'Eastenders' type store for the Frenchies near Calais!
You only live once - make the most of it!
Radical Clubsport, Kwaker motor
'94 MX5 MK1, 1.8
F10 M5 - 600bhp Daily Hack
Range Rover Sport - Wife's Car
Mercedes A class - Son's Car
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scotlad
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| posted on 19/12/08 at 09:18 AM |
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I and some lads met a bloke from germany i think to hand over our old robin hood that we sold on ebay. He came off the rosyth ferry, handed over cash
and was back on the ferry with car shortly after.
Totally genuine bloke who gave us no trouble at all, and even emailed us from the ferry to say how happy he wasd with the car!
It was a bit bizarre at the time, wondering if he'd actually appear but all turned out fine in the end.
Do be suspicious, but not to the point of missing out on a good deal if the bloke is genuine.
Wonderous is our great blue ship that sails around the mighty sun, and joy to everyone that rides along!
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mikeb
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| posted on 19/12/08 at 09:47 AM |
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i sold a knacked mgb roadster on ebay, some guy in holland bought it. He paid good money for a rotten shed that I had accurately described. I was
really dubious, but he turned up with a flat bed and a trialer, gave me the money loaded up and went, no problem at tall,
He did try a last minute haggle but your in the power seat as they have travelled all that way so i just said no.
Your just a likely to get scammed over here, cant see it makes any difference.
Good luck, sure it will be fine.
Mike
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