coozer
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:14 PM |
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Kit Car Crisis Re-runs
On Sky 242 atm, the perfect way to NOT build your kit.
The man is so incompetent its unbelievable
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westf27
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:20 PM |
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not worth the wear on the remote control
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:27 PM |
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could be worse... i've got the lottery draw on with tim vincent... euro millions is it? meh...
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D Beddows
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:34 PM |
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quote:
The man is so incompetent its unbelievable
I have to say that it's a little unfair to say that - OK building a car in a garage with no road access and having to crane it over the building
is complete muppetry BUT a lot of the other stuff he does is just down to inexperience and most of it is no worse than some of the mistakes that have
been made by people on here before they knew any better......making the mistakes on TV was perhaps a bigger mistake than any car related ones 
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:38 PM |
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^ yeah, but i've just seen him welding with no mask on and waering a sweatshirt. hmmm
wasn't just a tack weld either
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:40 PM |
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I know he made "some" mistakes but can you imagine being filmed every second you worked on your car. If I had all the stupid things I
have done edited into a 30 min show, I probably would be comitted.
His biggest mistake was lack of research imho and I think he was given a lot of poor advice before starting too.
The bit whic shocked me the most was when the the top suspension bracket sheared off when the guy stood on the car in the last ep and this
wasn't his fault
[Edited on 9/1/09 by liam.mccaffrey]
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:46 PM |
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I have to say that if I lived in a terrace with no garage and a large garden I would probably have done it a similar way. It's still got to be
easier that renting a lock up with no power a couple of miles from home.
As to the rest of it, well some that frequent this site would probably have to admit that they have sometimes not made the best choices, that they
have made schoolboy errors. I know that due to my crap planning my car has probably cost more in P&P than parts!
You also have to bear in mind that he will also have got some cracking deals from the promising the suppliers 5 mins of glory on his show. One of the
guys who works for me did a similar series when he did his self-build house. He reckons that the final outturn cost was less than 60% than it would
have been had he not offered suppliers the chance for them and their products to appear on tv.
Ok, so he made some cock ups and the project didn't really turn out for him but fair play. All IMHO of course!
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:51 PM |
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funny thing, I was on the phone to Will Hollman renewing my PPC sub when he first came on the screen. I forgot he was in it
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/1/09 at 11:52 PM |
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have to admit, i've ended up doing a fair bit of my car twice... wrong the first time, (hopfully) right the second time round 
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stevebubs
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 03:58 AM |
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TBH there were 2 things wrong with KCC..
1) Lack of Research
2) Poor Product
The combination of these made the show a complete farce
Ironically, before selecting the D*m!n4t0r, he actually had a half decent Fisher Fury (bought not built, though)
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 06:50 AM |
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I've had more than my fair share of cock ups and genuinely have had to buy most things 3 times over. For example I'm now looking for my
4th diff!
It's alright saying research but this is kind of where I stumbled. I just wasn't aware how big the engineering world is and what parts are
available and what they're called. There isn't just one site that lists everything so I've ended up racking my brains for days only
to eventually find that there's a very simple solution for sale.
I look at building the car as a learning curve and I see it as a hobby not a job that has to be finished to this standard in X amount of time so I
don't mind much about the costs running on. Some people would spend this money on RC aircraft, trips abroad, cycles or collecting things, I
spend mine on building a car.
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carpmart
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 07:41 AM |
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I like watching them as it makes me feel a lot more competent in relation to the jobs I'm doing! 
I disagree with many of the comments on here as the bloke on the series, whilst engaging and quite good to watch, he is still incompetent! Agreed the
car was not a good choice but his project management skills were shocking, that's what let him down!
You only live once - make the most of it!
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 09:20 AM |
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I agree.
Its good to watch, and i never did see every episode, only up to the exhausts made.
The guy "Mark" did seem very clumsy and not very mechanical minded, but more interested in wanting to try racing it. He should have
bought a ready built one and race prepped it, or gired one as a trial. Probably more up his street.
His project management skills were lacking somewhat, and his front disc fiasco was probably miscommunication on his part.
Fair play for giving it a go, and yes ive made some stupid mistakes, but we dont like telling eachother or the wife, let alone airing them on TV!!
What an idiot. I do cringe every time i see his ass on telly!!
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 10:18 AM |
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I consider myself to be reasonably competent but I ordered a complete rear brake kit from RalDes. It didn't fit! Apparently it was to convert
drummed rear to disk rear and wouldn't fit as a replacement on a rear already with disks. Perhaps I should have done more research or the
supplier should've been more clear. Either way it was a cock up that could've been made a big deal of on film.
Overall, we need to understand that everyone who may have an interest in cars has different strengths. Not every race driver could build their own car
but they may still be an excellent driver. I've built several different types of competition cars in the past but I'm sure that everyone
on here could find fault with the way that I've gone about my kit build.
In short, comical that it may be at times, give the guy a break. Anyone presented with the opportunity of a cut price build with a sponsor and a
series on tv would jump at the chance regardless of ability.
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Bigheppy
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 10:26 AM |
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A question that springs to mind is did he approach a film company to make the series or was it the idea or the company to find someone to base the
series on. The guy could have been chosen because he already had a kit car and was known by someone in the film company. I know I would take up the
challenge if offered.
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serieslandy
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 01:42 PM |
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Talking of cockups, last night would have made good tv. That was me getting stressed for about an hour trying to get the rear nearside hub nut off.
Then about an hour in realising I was doing it up (opposite thread). Felt really stupid when I got it off.
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Theshed
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 03:16 PM |
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I havn't actuall seen this but have seen what was left of the car. I bought some bits from mark and heard the whole saga.
Mark is a really nice bloke. The quality of the chassis he was supplied with was terrible. The welding was shocking.
The program was edited without his permission. As it could not be put out as a great success the company decided to put it out as a great failure. I
understand that Mark had to engage lawyers even to have it toned down. He still objected to the edit.
As kindly said above who would want their worst 20 cock ups filmed? My best was running an 6" aircraft drill towards me _ I now have 2 belly
buttons! That and about 2000 cut twice and its still too short moments.
Anyway bits of that car have a good home - in my shed.
Incidentally my shed has no road access - I have every intention of using a crane. Cost about £200 which is a fraction of the cost of a lock up garage
miles away where my baby would be lonely - and knicked in 5 mins
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RK
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 03:32 PM |
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I haven't seen the programmes in question, but I tend to agree with Mistergrumpy's comments. It's hard to know what everything is
called, and almost impossible to know where to go to get that little obscure part (ie. brake fittings) that you need, but are not available at your
local parts dealer. That's why researching is so important. I was out of my depth early on, and knew that, it's just my
"helper" bailed early and I was stranded. So I can relate to anybody having problems.
All the successful people are either A) knowledgable to begin with or B) know someone who is. There is no other option for a builder.
[Edited on 10/1/09 by RK]
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