A1
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 03:50 AM |
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settle a wee row
im having a 'discussion' with someone who seems to think they are right...but im not so sure.
basically, would a car beat a bike round a given track? for example, lets say an indy against a yamaha r1?
id have thought the car would win cause of the higher cornering speeds...yet the other party says that the acceleration and straight line speed of the
bike would always win...
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nitram38
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 04:27 AM |
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Depends on lots of factors, the type of car for a start and the length of the circuit and number of bends.
Generally on small circuits a car will have more advantage as it will be on the power out of corners earlier, but on longer circuits the bike would
catch up and overtake if there are longer straights.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 04:36 AM |
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Topgear did a bike vs car test a few years ago on a mainstream circuit.
Car won...
But agreed - depends on what bike/car and the layout of the track.
[Edited on 10/1/09 by stevebubs]
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LBMEFM
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 07:14 AM |
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Fifth Gear also did a test, the car won. Bikes have a higher performance on long circuits but cars take corners quicker. Fastest lap speeds at race
cicuits also demonstrate this. Bikes are more fun to watch racing though. Barry
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omega0684
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 08:07 AM |
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GO TO BED!!!!!
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smart51
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 08:25 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Topgear did a bike vs car test a few years ago on a mainstream circuit.
Car won...
[Edited on 10/1/09 by stevebubs]
But they used an R6 not an R1. The bigger bike would have easily won and that was against the supercharged Atom, one of the fastest cars round the
track.
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eznfrank
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 08:44 AM |
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I think the only way to do a fair test would be 2 vehicles with same power to weight ratio, which is possibly why they used the R6??
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 09:00 AM |
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I remember on one of Jeremy clarksons dvd's, he raced a porsche 911 against an R1 at truxton. The car won.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Benzine
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 09:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
I remember on one of Jeremy clarksons dvd's, he raced a porsche 911 against an R1 at truxton. The car won.
They did a full race on a DVD case? wow 
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oldtimer
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 09:32 AM |
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Yes, different tracks different winners. Car oriented programmes always seem to have car beating bike as the result!
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russbost
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 09:44 AM |
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I think the simple answer is there is no clear winner, too many variables - the most significant being the driver & rider.
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eddie99
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 09:45 AM |
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I would say that it all depends on the driver/rider but with a simliar skilled driver/rider, i would say the car would win. But lots of factors
involved as others has said
[Edited on 10/1/09 by eddie99]
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StevieB
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 09:48 AM |
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I've seen it done with a 911 and R1 - 911 was the clear winner due to the cornering speeds.
It'd be worth remembering that the porsche also has a decent top speed for the long straights where an Indy will ru out of beath around 115-120,
so the R1 would probably just blow it way on the first big run.
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jlparsons
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 10:14 AM |
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Car's ALWAYS going to win, because he just has to nudge the bike and it's curtains. 
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carpmart
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 10:19 AM |
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Its impossible to give a definitive answer to the question as there are too many variables!
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procomp
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 10:36 AM |
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Hi
The results are out there.
Click here for the lap times for a R1 at cadwell.
LINK HERE
And here are the results for the RGB cars at cadwell also. LINK
HERE
Not a whole lot in it there. But move up to a Radical or simalar and it's a diferent story.
LINK HERE
Cheers Matt
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joneh
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 11:32 AM |
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I'd like to see an R1 race against an R1 BEC.
That should settle it...
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Antnicuk
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 11:38 AM |
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Just go to the ring and you can see for yourself.
Have a look at some full lap video's on you tube and you will get the idea. Duncan Cowpers newest video on you tube of his new dax busa turbo
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richardh
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 12:28 PM |
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if Sabine can take a stripped out diesel van round the n'ring and pass bikes there then that the argument sorted.
car wins
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yellow melos
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 12:45 PM |
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Here is the link to mr Cowpers lap following the bikes
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv2MAljkU_U
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A1
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| posted on 10/1/09 at 02:18 PM |
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cheers! thats a good video...i wander where im going to take the indy when its rebuilt...
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