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02GF74

posted on 13/2/09 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
50% failure rate for ...

... MOT.

Land Rover passed!!

but Volvo failed

worn ball joint on control arms.

so has anyone replaced these? Haynes manual has no picture but from what I can tell, there is no need to compress the sprong as the macpherson struct is self contained; just a matter of unding 2 bolts and one nut.

garage quote 2 hours work for that, looks like 10 mins per side.

Do they know something I don't know?

(well I am sure they do but conrcerning this job).

this is the puppy:


and here you can see the ball joint popped off.


don't suppose anyone got manual showing the parts fitted?

I reckon it'll be straightforward but don't want to end up with undriveable car.

[Edited on 13/2/09 by 02GF74]






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tegwin

posted on 13/2/09 at 10:26 AM Reply With Quote
Why do you need to toouch the mcpherson strut... Sounds like the track rod ball joints want replacing... not the Big balljoint at the bottoim!





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02GF74

posted on 13/2/09 at 10:29 AM Reply With Quote
^^ that was my question, seems not - not really worked on anything modern.

nope, they deffo said control arms ball joint - I did ask about track rods but they said no.

I suppose I know have to ask how to test - jack up wheel and try to see movement when prodding with a wrecker bar?






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Benzine

posted on 13/2/09 at 10:29 AM Reply With Quote
850 sub forum of the volvo owners club might be useful

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=16

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Mr Whippy

posted on 13/2/09 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
thats as 'modern' as my old bluebird

You'll need to undo the anti-roll bar and slacken off the wishbone bolts to pull the wish bone down enough, Cavaliers have almost an identical setup too, piece of cake. Mind though the cars extremely heavy shove the wheel under the sill to be on the safe side, its way heavier than the landy






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ashg

posted on 13/2/09 at 11:12 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
thats as 'modern' as my old bluebird

You'll need to undo the anti-roll bar and slacken off the wishbone bolts to pull the wish bone down enough, Cavaliers have almost an identical setup too, piece of cake. Mind though the cars extremely heavy shove the wheel under the sill to be on the safe side, its way heavier than the landy


what he said.

easy job fiats are the same setup the hard part is getting the bolts out through the bush tubes. i have done both sides in under an hour with all the correct tools already out. a long bar helps to lever the strut up when putting it all back.

looks like you will be needing a new cv boot on the front there too.





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the_fbi

posted on 13/2/09 at 11:31 AM Reply With Quote
I know on some replacement (cheap) wishbones they don't have the balljoint fixed in place and you have to bolt another joint to them.
Which, if a garage is doing it will also result in a tracking (extra labour) charge too. Perhaps this is why 2 hours?

As said, its a piece of cake presuming the inboard 2 bolts come out. Vauxhalls are renowned for stripping the rearwards inboard bolts, and on all cars I've done they are threadlocked too, so a pain to release initially.

When I last did mine, I actually painted them in the car body colour too. Properly, primer, colour and lacquer. Makes it much easier to keep them clean and looks nice too

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andkilde

posted on 13/2/09 at 02:09 PM Reply With Quote
Here in Canada (where snow and heavy doses of road salt are the norm) the bolts often rust themselves solidly inside the metalastic bushes and need remedial action with the oxy/acetylene torch (dirty, smelly and occasionally painful job).

Over on your side it's more likely to be a simple job to unscrew the pinch bolt on the hub, pop a great whacking pipe into the old control arm to lever it down off the hub, remove the inner fixing bolts (fingers crossed ) and replace.

FWIW, we have a company called Dorman who market very inexpensive replacement control arms (about 35 pounds for my Mitsubishi) on this side of the Atlantic -- if they sell on your side it would be worth looking them up.

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