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Triton

posted on 18/2/09 at 08:06 PM Reply With Quote
Mot Fail

My Sierra xr4 failed the mot today on the rubber drive shaft boots and the steering rack...Nowt I know BUT..when braking gently I get a bit of judder thru the wheel, now i have had Sierras in the past and all have done this and all had to have TCA bushes. If the rack had the play the examiner says then surely I would feel that all the time and not just under braking.
If I jump on the brakes it's ok, only as I gently brake do I get the juddery bit.

Sounds a dumb thing to ask but does anyone have any idea where I stand with this as a new rack is £90 odd quid and I can't help feeling it's the TCA's. Stops in a straight line and doesn't pull left or right.

Mark





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speedyxjs

posted on 18/2/09 at 08:08 PM Reply With Quote
We get the same ting on our transit connect but i have never been able to work out what it is.





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blakep82

posted on 18/2/09 at 08:11 PM Reply With Quote
warped disc maybe?





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Triton

posted on 18/2/09 at 08:14 PM Reply With Quote
Starting to wind me up because I think it's going to still be there even after fitting a new rack...but MOT geeza was adamant it's the rack....If the new rack doesn't cure it can I bitch at him or am I just wasting my time with the way the system works?





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Triton

posted on 18/2/09 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
Mot said all ok brake wise but "distorted and unservicable rack"....although it did say the plastic bumper has suffered from corrosion hence the sharp edge!!!!! I hit a cornish hedge(made of granite I might add) and nerfed the front corner.





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www.tritonraceseats.com

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MikeRJ

posted on 18/2/09 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
Sounds like you have a good donor

Haven't you got anyone handy who can waggle the steering wheel to and fro while you have a look underneath? I find that just by holding the track rods, rod ends etc. you can get a feel for where any excessive play is.

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rusty nuts

posted on 18/2/09 at 08:53 PM Reply With Quote
Drive shaft gaiters on a rear wheel drive car are not a failure IIRC only the outer gaiters on a FWD. Can check tomorrow. Brake disc distortion should have shown up as a fluctuating reading on the rollers , worn bushes wouldn't but should have been picked up on the suspension check.
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gregs

posted on 18/2/09 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
judder can be sticking caliper slide pins - stick em in a drill, polish them with scotch brite and refit with a bit of silicone grease...
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Triton

posted on 18/2/09 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Drive shaft gaiters on a rear wheel drive car are not a failure IIRC only the outer gaiters on a FWD. Can check tomorrow. Brake disc distortion should have shown up as a fluctuating reading on the rollers , worn bushes wouldn't but should have been picked up on the suspension check.


Feels like I'm being taken for a ride, as car drives nice no wandering only the wee bit of judder when gently braking...mot bloke either blind or a complete tosser





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Mark G

posted on 18/2/09 at 11:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Drive shaft gaiters on a rear wheel drive car are not a failure IIRC only the outer gaiters on a FWD. Can check tomorrow. Brake disc distortion should have shown up as a fluctuating reading on the rollers , worn bushes wouldn't but should have been picked up on the suspension check.


XR4, could be a 4x4? Triton? Although a car can only be failed on the outer boots.

As for the rack, you may be right with the juddering when braking being the tca's but if the tester has found play in the rack then it'll have play in the rack. This part of the test is a two person check so the tester can get in there and check it properly (unless its a one person test lane) so he may not have failed the tca's but has failed the rack for something you may not be aware of.

If you do feel that you're being taken for a ride then you can apeal to VOSA for the car to be checked and they'll check it impartially. The details of which I'm sure are on the back of the failure sheet, don't remember if there is a cost involved though or how long it takes...

Good luck.
Mark.






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mark chandler

posted on 18/2/09 at 11:06 PM Reply With Quote
I had a granda that did this years ago, pucker 3ltr Ghia in Sweeny colours, any way I digress.

Failed on rack, I pulled the gators off and nipped up the rack ends, the ball joints had gone a little loose. These are pinned so a big monkey wrench required, I then added a little weld to stop it undoing.

Tester was really grumpy when it returned as the rack looked untouched but the wear had gone so he was stumped but still wanted to fail it...

Regards Mark

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MikeR

posted on 18/2/09 at 11:33 PM Reply With Quote
Perhaps you should give the rack a wipe down when you do it - say you fitted a recon one a mate had if asked.
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BenB

posted on 19/2/09 at 11:26 AM Reply With Quote
Quick degrease and some hammerite
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