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DaveFJ

posted on 24/2/09 at 09:50 AM Reply With Quote
Bizzare goggles

Got to admire the craftsmanship in these

http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/6278166_YCdn5/1





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 24/2/09 at 09:56 AM Reply With Quote
"More than a year" to make!!!............... I've heard there are fools out there on the www who can build a car in less time than that!!!! All fools hey - nothing better to do with their time..........
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Hellfire

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:00 AM Reply With Quote
Very well built but WFT?!?!?!?!

He wants to get out more....

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deezee

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:02 AM Reply With Quote
Wow only £7,500 for a pair of goggles. I don't honestly think they "improve" your vision, by reducing the amount of light. He's just associating how a camera works and imagining a human eye works the same. I reckon I can make something similar for £20 with some old camera lenses and duck tape.
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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:06 AM Reply With Quote
considering he's said he made the lenses out of auto-tinting glass, whats the point of the iris shutter?






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cd.thomson

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:24 AM Reply With Quote
for incorrect reasons:

First they look really cool. Second, they actually do improve the sharpness of vision at long distances at their smallest aperture. They do this by increasing the depth of field by limiting the aperture similar to a camera lens.





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:28 AM Reply With Quote
Can only see one person ever wearing them myself....


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Wadders

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:29 AM Reply With Quote
He's missed the boat a bit, i'd rather have a pair of these.

Al.


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DaveFJ

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:30 AM Reply With Quote
your arguments are somewhat irrellevant!

he did it because he could!

damn nice work... who cares if they actually work!





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:31 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ

he did it because he could!

damn nice work... who cares if they actually work!



You could say the same about a fair few of the cars on here!!

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smart51

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:40 AM Reply With Quote
You'd have to make sure the irises lined up exactly with your eye spacing.

Thinking about it, you'd only be able to look forwards through them, not turn your eyes to the sides.

Narrow apertures increase depth of field, improving the focus range of the eye if you are short sighted. That's why squinting works.

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cd.thomson

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:51 AM Reply With Quote
Thats not actually true. The eye does not function like a camera and takes a continuous stream of signals from an optical input. Depth of field is increased in a camera by reducing aperture and slowing shutter speed...a system intrinsically different from how the eye works. Because youre not increasing "shutter times" the restriction of light only increases the percentage of light falling onto the centre of the visual field..it doesnt increase the total amount of light being received. - this WOULD result in it being easier to focus on a point of interest, but WOULD NOT increase depth of field.

Squinting works by using the muscles used in the face to deform the eye slightly to enhance the effect produced by the intraocular muscles (which provides normal focusing).

[Edited on 24/2/09 by cd.thomson]





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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:52 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
for incorrect reasons:

First they look really cool. Second, they actually do improve the sharpness of vision at long distances at their smallest aperture. They do this by increasing the depth of field by limiting the aperture similar to a camera lens.


I've found much cheaper DIY versions on the web









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Paul TigerB6

posted on 24/2/09 at 10:54 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy

I've found much cheaper DIY versions on the web





Tell the truth Mr Whippy - you made them yourself last night didnt you!!!

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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/2/09 at 11:32 AM Reply With Quote
less of your cheek or you'll should see my lollypop dagger






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David Jenkins

posted on 24/2/09 at 12:21 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
less of your cheek or you'll should see my lollypop dagger


Is that a euphemism?






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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/2/09 at 01:49 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
less of your cheek or you'll should see my lollypop dagger


Is that a euphemism?


I don't want to know how your mind works






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smart51

posted on 24/2/09 at 03:17 PM Reply With Quote
No, I don't agree. Depth of focus is not related to shutter speed. The diameter of the iris is what determines this.

The lens focuses to a point of light on the image so the image is nice and sharp. You get diverging rays of light from the source which strike the area of the lens. These rays are bent and then converge at a single point on the image. Objects nearer to or further away from the lens are focused to a point away from the image, that is in front or behind the plane of the image. The result is that the rays of light haven’t yet converged or are diverging again, causing a blurred puddle of light on the image.

An iris, when closed or partly closed, blocks the outer rays of converging light, reducing the diameter of the puddle of light on the image, improving its focus. The more the iris is closed, the further away from the centre of focus objects can be without appearing blurred. Theoretically, a pin hole just 1 “wave of light thick” (if there were such a thing) would give sharp images from any distance. The image would be very faint though. This is where shutter speeds would come in on a camera.

The human eye has a much wider latitude for light detection and do doesn’t need a shutter to limit the exposure. The eye has an iris of its own which it can use to reduce the light entering the eye. Between the two, humans can see in a wide range of light intensities.


quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
Thats not actually true. The eye does not function like a camera and takes a continuous stream of signals from an optical input. Depth of field is increased in a camera by reducing aperture and slowing shutter speed...a system intrinsically different from how the eye works. Because youre not increasing "shutter times" the restriction of light only increases the percentage of light falling onto the centre of the visual field..it doesnt increase the total amount of light being received. - this WOULD result in it being easier to focus on a point of interest, but WOULD NOT increase depth of field.

Squinting works by using the muscles used in the face to deform the eye slightly to enhance the effect produced by the intraocular muscles (which provides normal focusing).

[Edited on 24/2/09 by cd.thomson]

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cd.thomson

posted on 24/2/09 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
good point well made Smart51. Ive had a couple of discussions about this before and people have been unable to explain the principles as youve just done so ive gone with the deformation theory (which does play at least some part).

Thanks for explaining this aperture issue in terms of the human eye. Ill now sit confidently on the other side of the fence!





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 24/2/09 at 07:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
good point well made Smart51. Ive had a couple of discussions about this before and people have been unable to explain the principles as youve just done so ive gone with the deformation theory (which does play at least some part).

Thanks for explaining this aperture issue in terms of the human eye. Ill now sit confidently on the other side of the fence!



You will be able to sleep tonight now too - i'm sure!!

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David Jenkins

posted on 24/2/09 at 08:20 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
less of your cheek or you'll should see my lollypop dagger


Is that a euphemism?


I don't want to know how your mind works


I have a one-track mind - dirt track!






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