John P
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 01:09 PM |
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How much to fit a new back door?
How much would you expect to pay for the follwing:
Remove a rotton solid (not glazed) rear door and replace it with a similar softwood door including painting. (Existing door is slightly narrower and
shorter than standard so the replacement will have to be cut down to fit).
Seperately cut out an existing hardwood door frame and replace it with new. Door frame appears to be a standard size but instead of just a door it is
fitted with an aluminium sub-frame and double glazed door which was fitted into an existing frame around 20 years ago. This would have to be removed
and re-fitted and again the frame would need finishing with wood-stain.
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 01:15 PM |
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sounds like nearly a days work for a skilled carpenter/joiner.
about £130
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Paradoxia0
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 01:43 PM |
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Softwood on an exterior door? One good boot and a foot will be through!
Mark
There is no replacement for displacement...
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John P
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 01:56 PM |
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Although I called it a rear door it's the entrance to a garden store (actually a cupboard which is within the walls of the house but with access
from the outside).
The door is softwood but made up from a braced frame clad on the outside with T&G boarding so it's actually very solid and quite heavy.
Dinosaurjuice - remember it's got to be painted after installation and the other concern is whether it will be a problem to get the aluminium
sub-frame out of the existing hardwood frame without damaging it which I guess will mean they will have to take care. (It's very slim in
section so presumably would be easy to bend).
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Keith Weiland
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 03:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paradoxia0
Softwood on an exterior door? One good boot and a foot will be through!
Mark
Softwood is does not refer to the hardness of the wood it refers to the type of tree (conifers) and can be much harder than some hardwood. something
like Yew is is much harder than most hardwood and Balsa is a hardwood but is much softer than any softwood.
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Peteff
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 04:52 PM |
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Softwood is evergreen wood and hardwood is deciduous wood, if someone hits you with a pine 3x2 you will find it is not really soft  Not much
building timber is hard wood as the price is too high.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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dinosaurjuice
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 05:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by John P
Dinosaurjuice - remember it's got to be painted after installation and the other concern is whether it will be a problem to get the aluminium
sub-frame out of the existing hardwood frame without damaging it which I guess will mean they will have to take care. (It's very slim in
section so presumably would be easy to bend).
erm, alright, £260. if thats still too little, maybe £390.
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roadrunner
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 07:52 PM |
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When you work out the cost of a replacement door and frame add in the cost of altering door and frame, it would work out cheaper to have one made to
measure. I could do one for around £360 primed and fitted.
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James
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 08:13 PM |
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This sounds exactly what I did with my back door.
Old aluminium double-glazed door in an ali subframe inside a hardwood frame.
I am no carpenter (only experience is a few interior doors) but with help from my Dad I fitted a new softwood door into the hardwood frame in 1 day.
This included fitting a piece into the top of the frame to lower it (frame was 3" too tall for new door), another strip on the side of the frame
to narrow it 1" and fitting 3 good hinges and a lock/handle.
I fitted hinge bolts later on.
That 1 day included a trip to the wood suppliers for the frame 'lowering' wood.
So if *I* can do it in a day, a pro should easily be able to.
Door from Wickes was £50. Frame wood about £8-£10.
Paint I did later with the Dulux '3 stage' kit. Which cost a fortune! 
Hope that helps,
James
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 08:21 PM |
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I've been waiting for someone to ask who's been kicking your back door in
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roadrunner
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| posted on 8/3/09 at 08:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
So if *I* can do it in a day, a pro should easily be able to.
So if it took a carpenter a full day, which it should 'nt, that still would be nearly £200 plus cost of door and paint and the job would be a
bodge.
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