MikeLR
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 09:32 PM |
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Stolen Kit Cars
There has been lots of discussion regarding anti theft devices on our cars but in reallity are many stolen . I have read about lookups being broken
into, but how have kit cars being stolen ? Driven away, taken on trailer etc.
Would your usual chav type know how to steal a kit car?
Regards
Mike
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blakep82
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 09:35 PM |
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its probably easier to steal a kit than a production car. access to wiring etc for hotwiring.
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hobzy
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 09:39 PM |
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Thats why my steering wheel is in the house. Mind you, I'd challenge anyone without prior knowledge to get very far in a BEC anyway 
"quick go!"
"hangon, wheres the gear stick?"
"come on they might wake up!"
"Hang on, I've stalled it"
"and again"
"b##locks and again"
"ah b#gger it lets nick that fiesta instead..."
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 09:53 PM |
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i have only heard of one ever being stolen on this forum.
Compare that to the motorbike forums I frequent where there are even sections on the site dedicated to posting up about theft.
I think it would be pretty hard to sell on a kit car, they are so distinctive.
Might get them robbed and burned out though 
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rf900rush
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 09:54 PM |
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Don't worry if they steal your BEC.
You won't need it once you have been put you in jail because fail to stop the thieves killing them selves in your car.
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nick205
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 10:05 PM |
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mine hasn't got any wheels on it 
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daniel mason
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 10:28 PM |
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mine has removeable wheel with push button gear shift built in. so not only could they not steer.they could not engage 1st gear.or any gear! bar
stewards.
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expatkiwi
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 10:30 PM |
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They would have to get mine through the house first past the very unfreindly wife
I have decided to call my Westfeild "The Caterhammer" Hopefully it will
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matt.c
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 11:01 PM |
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Mine has the dash on the floor  Wires everywhere. I cant even get it started!
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iscmatt
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 11:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by matt.c
I cant even get it started!
haha, thats the best one!! A pretty good safety device that.
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Staple balls
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| posted on 27/3/09 at 11:58 PM |
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I'd figure they should be pretty bloody easy to steal, given the fact the wiring isn't hidden nearly as well as on a production car.
However, I'd really like to see them get away with a fully built one (unfinished they'd have even less chance)
Most likely the noise of the thing starting would be fairly effective as an alarm.
Not to mention the fact SVA approved or not, I'd expect most locosts to have 4-5 anti-theft mechanisms;
Steering lock
Iginition
Immobiliser
Battery cut off
Removable steering wheel
Obviously, I'm still not convinced of the security of mine (living on the drive) but there's a van parked in front of it every night, and
once it's at a point it can be moved easily, I'll probably stick a spear in the concrete and lock it to that.
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A1
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 01:01 AM |
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im more worried about it getting trashed...
but i leave it in gear, so hopefully the inbred poo trying to steal it wont be able to work it out, steering lock, an immobiliser and neighbors that
would crucify me for starting it any time after 10 at night
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James
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 01:28 AM |
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There's the odd/a few posts on here about them going.
A black Indy for example that was trailered away.
I went over to mine the other day which is stashed in my girlfriends Mum's garage... found I'd left the keys in the ignition!!!
Well done Genius!
Cheers,
James
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 01:52 AM |
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Looks like I'll be installing one of them removeable wheels then. Shame we can't use more agressive anti-theft systems... I know of a good
few too
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t.j.
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 09:17 AM |
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Just make a simple hidden "cut-off" and don't tell anybody....
And mine has no engine, no gear-box, wheels and body at the moment
BTW how come the VIN is not stamped in in every kitcar. I see a lot off "welded" on plates and have seen ones with only a VIN on the
manufacturer plate. Isn't a stamped VIN "IN" the chassis needed in the UK?
How easy for someone who doesn't respect otherones property
[Edited on 28/3/09 by t.j.]
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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deezee
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 10:07 AM |
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Years ago, I used to unhook the throttle cable and remove the HT lead / coil lead.
Although my MGB had a lock, you could probably break into that car with a potato and a pointed stick. Don't suppose it would stop anyone
putting it on a trailer though.
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adithorp
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 11:55 AM |
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Most people weld a plate on with the VIN because if you try stamping the tube there's a good chance of denting the tube.
Once welded it is perminently part of the chassis. Yes, you could grind it off, but then you could do that anyway and restamp a number somewhere
else.
Mine has igniton key...not too hard to beat but not 2 minutes either.
Immobiliser on 2 circuits...thatcham and hidden in the loom when I made it so not easy to get around.
Hidden battery cut-off...depends if you know what to look for and where (not used unless I'm away in it and it's vulnerable).
I leave it in gear...won't start unless they find neutral (I have trouble with that sometimes) and won't roll away if some kid lets the
handbrake off.
If they really want it and have the time they'll get it but thats the same with anything. Best security is that they aren't familiar with
it and it'll take time to figure out. Time is something that really puts them off.
adrian
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
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pgtips
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 11:58 AM |
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I use one of this bad boys. They cant get to the wheel studs and is strong as anything.
Linky
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jlparsons
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 12:03 PM |
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I'm with adithorp - all you can do is make it harder to steal than anything else, largely through unfamiliarity, and with our cars that
ain't hard!
I'm liking the look of these keyless transponder kits too.
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snapper
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 12:39 PM |
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My big worry would be if it was nicked and strippedand i got the remains back, the insurance would give me back a Pinto with Type 9, standard diff etc
not the Steel flywheel, Cossy rods, V6 pistons, race head and cam, bike carbs, V6 gearbox, LSD and so on
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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mad4x4
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 12:58 PM |
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Just keep a detailed document detailing all mods (with photos) and submit this to the insurance at time of taking out policy.
Then if it is nicked you will get all that back (at least in cash) .......... (well hopefully)
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 28/3/09 at 06:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
My big worry would be if it was nicked and strippedand i got the remains back, the insurance would give me back a Pinto with Type 9, standard diff etc
not the Steel flywheel, Cossy rods, V6 pistons, race head and cam, bike carbs, V6 gearbox, LSD and so on
I thought that was what the agreed value is about?
I think what I could do when I leave it at home is have a big mondeo in the way, SWMBO leaves hers unlocked most times but they'll have to get
through mine to shift it, unless they're happy to nick 10p and a baby sock!
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