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iank

posted on 14/4/09 at 04:06 PM Reply With Quote
Miserable thieving b*st*rds (HMGovt)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7998182.stm

This quote caught my eye
quote:
Previously the Department for Transport (DfT) had discouraged the systems which reduce fuel use, resulting in less tax being paid to the Treasury.

But now, rather than seeing green wave systems as a "cost" to the public purse, the DfT views them as a "benefit".


So in effect they are/were deliberately causing congestion to boost tax income. Cynical doesn't quite cover it.


[Edited on 14/4/09 by iank]





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A1

posted on 14/4/09 at 04:42 PM Reply With Quote
its just annoying how its all about carbon emmisions, not helping us...if they really wanted to cut carbon, theyd get rid of all the excess traffic lights that we dont reeeally need....
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alistairolsen

posted on 14/4/09 at 04:51 PM Reply With Quote
And stop promoting that everyone buy a new car with 2 tonnes of metal and plastic in it.

The most environmentaly friendly car I have ever owned was my corsa xe which was made from two cars on their way to the scrapyard. Prevented the costs of melting down 2 cars, manufacturing one, cost me 700 all in after selling what I didnt need and did 43mpg on a run.

(that fact it was 6.5 0-60 and 140 is an aside )

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MikeRJ

posted on 14/4/09 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iank
So in effect they are/were deliberately causing congestion to boost tax income. Cynical doesn't quite cover it.



And they are apparently quite happy to admit this as well. Quite incredible, these government departments need a massive shake up IMO.

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NigeEss

posted on 14/4/09 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iank

So in effect they are/were deliberately causing congestion to boost tax income. Cynical doesn't quite cover it.


[Edited on 14/4/09 by iank]


That actually comes as no surprise although I always thought lights were phased
just to slow us down.





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ANDYSHORT

posted on 14/4/09 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
MISERABLE B*ST*RDS

i heard from a friend of a friend who installs all these traffic lights that the local council were tryong to cause congestion so that in the future they could introduse a congestion charge because of all the congestion !!!
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smart51

posted on 14/4/09 at 05:18 PM Reply With Quote
This admission sound like something lifted straight out of an armchair discussion between civil servants from "Yes Minister".
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greggors84

posted on 14/4/09 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
I was always convinced that the lights in Oxford were programmed to cause congestion to get more people out of their cars and onto bikes.





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mr henderson

posted on 14/4/09 at 06:47 PM Reply With Quote
HANG ON A MINUTE!

"Previously the Department for Transport (DfT) had discouraged the systems which reduce fuel use, resulting in less tax being paid to the Treasury. "

Thye article doesn't say that they discouraged its use because it saved fuel. The way the article is written is quite cunning, it suggests something but doesn't say it. So it doesn't have to be proved because the accusation isn't actually made. The writer had simply put two fact into the same sentence, but hasn't proved that they are linked.

There could be many other reasons why the DfT discouraged the use of the 'green wave' and in any case, normally only the Treasury are concerned with tax, other departments are not so bothered

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 14/4/09 at 07:33 PM Reply With Quote
ho ho ho ho

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7999033.stm
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JoelP

posted on 14/4/09 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
i know of two traffic lights that turn red every time you approach them, even in the middle of the night (outside the ambulance station in morley and at the crossroads at bardsey on wetherby road). I gave up stopping for them long ago

I hope the peasants in mangos link get billed for the damage to the police car

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iank

posted on 14/4/09 at 08:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
I hope the peasants in mangos link get billed for the damage to the police car


I believe doing that gets you attempted murder amongst other charges.





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