nitram38
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 09:36 PM |
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Motaleira, 338bhp per ton?
I found this calculator on my travels here
These are my "theoretical" stats based on estimated 160bhp (engine 182bhp on a bike):
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 160
Weight without Driver (KG) : 480
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 338.68
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.80
0 - 100 (Secs) : 10.19
60 - 100 (Secs) : 6.39
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 12.24
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 109.61
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 12.14
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 110.95
What are yours?
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omega0684
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 09:37 PM |
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nice !! 
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mr henderson
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 09:38 PM |
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Weight without driver? Not terribly relevant unless it's an RC car.
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 09:40 PM |
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0-60. 0-100. 60-100 all completely irrelevant without info on the gearing.
anyways, here's mine
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 180
Weight without Driver (KG) : 850
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 215.16
0 - 60 (Secs) : 5.19
0 - 100 (Secs) : 13.59
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.41
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.61
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.04
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.51
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 101.21
but it;s all guess work i don't know how much it'll weigh. i'm just going by the ballasted weight of the racing ones, and a guess
at the power of my engine
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nitram38
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 09:42 PM |
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I was more interested in the power to weight and 0-60 times.
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nitram38
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 09:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
Weight without driver? Not terribly relevant unless it's an RC car.
Aren't cars calculated that way?
If not, add you weight in and do a calc.
It's only for fun! 
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 09:45 PM |
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but the 0-60 times are going to be affected by your gearing. you could have 600hp, but if your diff if 600:1 and a 5kg car (ok, a bit unlikely )
you'll never make 60mph
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nitram38
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 09:48 PM |
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How the figures were derived here
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cloudy
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 10:25 PM |
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Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 160
Weight without Driver (KG) : 350
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 464.48
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.31
0 - 100 (Secs) : 9.08
60 - 100 (Secs) : 5.76
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.75
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 113.79
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.65
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 115.20
www.warnercars.com
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daviep
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 10:32 PM |
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Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 147
Weight without Driver (KG) : 410
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 364.29
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.66
0 - 100 (Secs) : 9.95
60 - 100 (Secs) : 6.29
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 12.11
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 110.32
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 12.01
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 111.67
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 10:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
Weight without driver? Not terribly relevant unless it's an RC car.
It is relevant, since the algorithms that these performance estimations use is derived from manufacturers data, and they don't specify weight
with driver!
Obviously the lighter the car, the greater the error is likely to be.
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Wadders
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| posted on 25/4/09 at 11:07 PM |
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0-60 times are luvverly in theory, but highly unachievable in the real world. Great fun trying though
Al.
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iscmatt
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 01:31 AM |
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This only guessing power and weight
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 135
Weight without Driver (KG) : 600
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 228.61
0 - 60 (Secs) : 4.95
0 - 100 (Secs) : 13.41
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.46
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.41
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 100.01
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.31
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 101.21
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iscmatt
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 01:32 AM |
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oh and plus the aerodynamics of the 7 cars will effect the 0-100 and 60-100 times
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 07:03 AM |
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My cars been dyno'd and corner weighted but I'm absolutely positive I won't get within a second of that 0-60 time!
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 267
Weight without Driver (KG) : 565
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 480.15
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.28
0 - 100 (Secs) : 8.31
60 - 100 (Secs) : 5.02
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.62
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 118.26
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.52
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 119.69
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 07:58 AM |
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Depends what tyres youre using, road (Track) temp, and wether you can put it down. Either way, these cars are still quicker than youre average Saxo
or PUG.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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iiyama
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 09:44 AM |
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Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 190
Weight without Driver (KG) : 503
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 383.80
0 - 60 (Secs) : 3.57
0 - 100 (Secs) : 9.42
60 - 100 (Secs) : 5.85
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.98
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 112.75
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 11.88
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 114.12
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daniel mason
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 10:38 AM |
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the motaleria looks to me like it weighs far less than 480 kgs! how come their is so much weight difference between this and cloudys warner?
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nitram38
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 10:47 AM |
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There is a lot more of it than cloudy's car!
The weight was given by the examiner after he put it on a short weighbridge (normal brake weighing not working) each axle seperately.
I need to get it weighed on a full size weighbridge to be sure.
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daniel mason
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 11:39 AM |
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it looks superb in my opinion!
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 06:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
Depends what tyres youre using, road (Track) temp, and wether you can put it down. Either way, these cars are still quicker than youre average Saxo
or PUG.
I had a go this afternoon as I finally have a clutch capable of taking the power when launching. Cheap road tyes on fairly old tarmac with temps about
15 deg I managed 4.9 secs to 60mph. I tried various RPMs but basically the clutch bites too hard to slip so just overwelms the tyres so either tyre or
both tyres spin up and no LSD to help either. I used a G-Force accelerometer which is very easy to use and more than accurate enough.
My old Corolla GTi also with a supecharged 4AGE also managed 4.9 secs to 60mph! Same road and accelerometer just a decade between runs  So the light
weight would appear to be acting against me in this test.
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scootz
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| posted on 26/4/09 at 07:37 PM |
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Quarter mile time looks a bit optimistic to me... seen lighter / more powerful cars struggle to reach 12.4.
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