02GF74
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 08:13 AM |
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maxoverdose
His home was in the same London street where Paula Yates, the television presenter, died from an accidental heroin overdose in 2000.
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tegwin
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 08:18 AM |
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Says a lot about the type of people that live in that street doesnt it!
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Would the last person who leaves the country please switch off the lights and close the door!
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balidey
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 08:32 AM |
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I think this quote says more about the street...
quote:
said one builder who gave his name as Sebastian
 they even have posh bloody builders.
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02GF74
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 08:36 AM |
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.... but pronounced with a Polish accent?
I'll hazard that you'll probably find that sort of thing going on in any UK street, just that it doesn't make the Metro front page.
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omega0684
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 09:03 AM |
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i have no sympathy for people who take illegal drugs, sevres him right!
[Edited on 7/5/09 by omega0684]
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iiyama
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 09:08 AM |
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Are Jordan and Mosely thick as thieves?? Jordan is always name dropping Mosely on the BBC and he's gets a mention in the article......
As above, when are these people going to learn that drugs are gonna kill ya???
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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twybrow
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 09:15 AM |
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I think 'serves him right', is a little out of order. Whether you agree with his drug taking or not, he was still someones
brother/friend/father....
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balidey
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 09:15 AM |
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when are these people going to learn that drugs are gonna kill ya???
They DO learn, its just that its often the very last thing they learn.
Just think of all the bits you could buy for your car rather than spend it on drugs.... errr... not that I know how much drugs cost... err, well I
assume rich people do drugs so it must be expensive?
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02GF74
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 09:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by balidey
not that I know how much drugs cost... err, well I assume rich people do drugs so it must be expensive?
They are expensive compared to say a loaf of Tesco finest sunflower seed bread but you don't need to be rich to buy illegal drugs. There are
loads of homeless junkies, crime is how they fund their habbit.
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Peteff
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 09:47 AM |
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More proof
that drugs are bad, hhhhmm kai !
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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adithorp
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 09:55 AM |
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Was it drugs? I heard it was gas!
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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iiyama
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 10:05 AM |
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he was still someones brother/friend/father....
Even more reason not to take em in my book!
If its broke, fix it. If it aint broke, take it apart and find out how it works!
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twybrow
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 10:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iiyama
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he was still someones brother/friend/father....
Even more reason not to take em in my book!
Why is it that 'drugs' are treated as they are? It is our society that has said that caffine, nicotine and alcohol are acceptable, whereas
others are deemed to be outrageous... He just chose to do something that you wouldn't have - just like going a few mph over the limit.
It's a risk, and you weigh up the risk vs the reward. In this case, it seems he lost.
Drugs are all chemicals which change the way our bodies behave, so why differentiate so much between good ones and bad ones and judge people
accordingly....?
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omega0684
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 10:41 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
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Originally posted by iiyama
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he was still someones brother/friend/father....
Even more reason not to take em in my book!
Why is it that 'drugs' are treated as they are? It is our society that has said that caffine, nicotine and alcohol are acceptable, whereas
others are deemed to be outrageous... He just chose to do something that you wouldn't have - just like going a few mph over the limit.
It's a risk, and you weigh up the risk vs the reward. In this case, it seems he lost.
Drugs are all chemicals which change the way our bodies behave, so why differentiate so much between good ones and bad ones and judge people
accordingly....?
ok but that doesn't make the fact that everybody has the choice to say NO when it comes to drugs! people choose to smoke & drink alcohol and
in doing so also have the choice to moderate how much they take, just as you say that you can choose to go a few miles an hour over the speed limit,
limits are put there for a reason, just as certain drugs are illegal for a reason, nicotine and alcohol are relatively harmless drugs in moderation
but its the persons choice to ignore the limitations.
yes he was someones, son, brother, uncle etc but if they are family why did they not help him to deal with his obviously fatal addiction! counciling,
drugs rehab etc are all available to people and if you have the money (which im pretty sure his family does) then he would be able to get private
treatment. he also has to be willing to want to give up the drugs, in my eyes he clearly didn't because he carried on taking then, so he becomes
a victim of his own choices, nothing you or i could do about it, he knew the risk and its bitten him where it hurts and taken his life!
p.s don't know why its posted in italics, i didn't tell it to
[Edited on 7/5/09 by omega0684]
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twybrow
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 11:02 AM |
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Alex - nicotine and alcohol are far from harmless. In fact, either one of them costs you and I more than all of the rest of the drugs cost us
(society).
If someone today suggested nicotine, or alcohol for legalisation, we would laugh at them knowing what we know now.
I think he was trying to get help (I know the family persoanlly, and I am sure they would have helped where they could).
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 11:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
yes he was someones, son, brother, uncle etc but if they are family why did they not help him to deal with his obviously fatal addiction! counciling,
drugs rehab etc are all available to people and if you have the money (which im pretty sure his family does) then he would be able to get private
treatment. he also has to be willing to want to give up the drugs, in my eyes he clearly didn't because he carried on taking then, so he becomes
a victim of his own choices, nothing you or i could do about it, he knew the risk and its bitten him where it hurts and taken his life!
People who use heroin rarely end up with any choice in the matter... much like alchoholism, but much, much worse.
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omega0684
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 11:58 AM |
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People who use heroin rarely end up with any choice in the matter... much like alchoholism, but much, much worse.
im sorry i have to disagree, you always have a choice! addicts choose to shoot up or drink another can etc
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adithorp
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 12:15 PM |
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A guy who worked with addicts once described choosing not to have another hit, for an addict, was like choosing not to have a poo when you'd
got the runs.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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iank
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 01:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
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People who use heroin rarely end up with any choice in the matter... much like alchoholism, but much, much worse.
im sorry i have to disagree, you always have a choice! addicts choose to shoot up or drink another can etc
You've obviously never been addicted to anything.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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omega0684
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 01:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
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Originally posted by omega0684
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People who use heroin rarely end up with any choice in the matter... much like alchoholism, but much, much worse.
im sorry i have to disagree, you always have a choice! addicts choose to shoot up or drink another can etc
You've obviously never been addicted to anything.
only Locostbuilders i studied a lot of human physiology at uni and find it very easy to say no to things that are bad for me, never taken any
drugs, never smoked a cigarette or cigar, a fact that im very proud of, like i said you can always so no, sure ive had those pier pressure moments
where all your mates are doing it, but never caved on the fact that i know what these things do to your body
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iank
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| posted on 7/5/09 at 02:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
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Originally posted by iank
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Originally posted by omega0684
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People who use heroin rarely end up with any choice in the matter... much like alchoholism, but much, much worse.
im sorry i have to disagree, you always have a choice! addicts choose to shoot up or drink another can etc
You've obviously never been addicted to anything.
only Locostbuilders i studied a lot of human physiology at uni and find it very easy to say no to things that are bad for me, never taken any
drugs, never smoked a cigarette or cigar, a fact that im very proud of, like i said you can always so no, sure ive had those pier pressure moments
where all your mates are doing it, but never caved on the fact that i know what these things do to your body
You can always say no before you start I agree, except tp locostbuilders obviously, but once addicted to alcohol, nicotine or heroin it's more
than a trivial matter of deciding to stop as if it were a second helping of ice-cream.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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