eznfrank
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 07:38 AM |
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The world's smallest car
Linky to BBC - World's smallest car
Apologies if this has been posted before but this caught my eye on the news.
Some bloke took a postman pat kiddies ride and stuck a modded quad bike inside it. Vid shows him driving it on the road with a plate on so I'm
guessing he's had it SVA'd? Or maybe he didn't need to as he used the quad chassis?
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StevieB
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 07:42 AM |
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I know they alays seem like a daft joke, but all I envisage is a sleeker body and aeroscreen with a cbr600 engine.... 
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splitrivet
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 07:47 AM |
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Ace, love the key sticking out the back.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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Danozeman
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 07:53 AM |
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Thats cool.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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jabs
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 07:54 AM |
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quick check on reg shows it to be a 2008 149cc shanghi - presume thats the quad bike. The report described it as 're-enginered' so depends
on if he modified the chassis at all. presume it's just the case of another builder "stretching" the rules and not putting it
through an SVA when it may have actually needed one
[Edited on 9/5/09 by jabs]
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big_wasa
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 08:17 AM |
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It just showed that on the news. I think its great but he did say and show that it had been completly re-enginered.
So yes a very large stretch of the rules 
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 08:49 AM |
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there,s a postman pat van at my local tesco..........
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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COREdevelopments
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 11:54 AM |
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what a cool idea, wouldnt drive it on the road though.
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Guinness
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 02:05 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by theconrodkid
there,s a postman pat van at my local tesco..........
How do you know it's not this bloke getting his shopping in?
You could get free parking in every supermarket and shopping centre in the country, and if you put some flashing lights / a speaker & a coin slot
in it, it might even make you money as kids got in it while you did your shopping!
Mike
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JoelP
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 03:52 PM |
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might not need an SVA anyway, all he's done is lowered it and stuck a body on
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mr henderson
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 04:09 PM |
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I would say that that is a huge stretch of the rules, and there is no way that vehicle doesn't need an SVA.
It wouldn't even pass the construction and use regulations, especially with respect to the height and width of the lighting
We had all this before with the BBC, when they showed the lowest 'road legal' car in the world, and it wasn't road legal either.
Perhaps they shouldn't just take the owner's word for it.
John
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JoelP
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 04:19 PM |
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why does it need an SVA mr henderson? Assuming he might have done nothing more than lowered it and added a body, which certainly doesnt count as a
radical modification.
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mr henderson
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 06:01 PM |
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Seems radical enough to me. All depends on the definition of 'radical', although I don't think that word is in the regulations. I
have a feeling it more like 'substantial'. I'll have a look later.
Anyway, even if it doesn't need an SVA (although I think it does), it still has to meet the Construction and Use regulations.
You can call me John, BTW, no need to be formal
John
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mr henderson
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 06:53 PM |
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Just had another look at the video
"the (quad) had to be completely re-engineered"
Also, the car itself is 1000mm high. to meet the minimum height regulations, the bottom of the headlights need to be 500mm from the ground, and
it's obvious that they are not.
It may be a car, and it may be small, but road legal it ain't.
I'm not against this sort of thing at all, although it may sound like it, what bugs me is people driving around in vehicles that break the rules
when the rest of us have to abide by them
John
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Guinness
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 08:00 PM |
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Is there not an exemption for quadricycles?
Very low weight, combined with a low output engine?
Mike
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iank
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| posted on 9/5/09 at 08:15 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Guinness
Is there not an exemption for quadricycles?
Very low weight, combined with a low output engine?
Mike
Yes MSVA rules apply for Quadricycles depending on weight and power
quote: Quadricycle is a 4 wheeled vehicle of which there are two classes:
(i) light quadricycles whose unladen mass is not more than 350kg, not including the mass of the batteries in case of electric vehicles, whose maximum
design speed is
not more than 45km/h. These vehicles shall be considered to be mopeds and shall fulfil the technical requirements applicable to mopeds; and,
(ii) quadricycles other than those in (i), whose unladen mass is not more than 400kg (550kg for vehicles intended for carrying goods), not including
the mass of batteries in
the case of electric vehicles, and whose maximum net engine power does not exceed 15kW. These vehicles shall be considered to be motor tricycles and
must fulfil the
technical requirements applicable to motor tricycles.
So I suspect Pats van is actually a moped in the eyes of the law.
[Edited on 9/5/09 by iank]
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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