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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 10:36 AM Reply With Quote
I hate tractors

I was well on target to break an average of 30 mpg on a 70 mile round jounnery (first half in rush hour) in my jag today when a tractor pulled out infront of me on the way home
When i got home the mpg had dropped to 27.5

[Edited on 24-6-09 by speedyxjs]

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Jasongray5

posted on 24/6/09 at 10:38 AM Reply With Quote
oi!! we put milk on your cerial, meat on your bbq and bread for your sarnies!





How hard can it be?

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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/6/09 at 10:42 AM Reply With Quote
how can the mpg drop if your going slower behind a tractor?






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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
how can the mpg drop if your going slower behind a tractor?


The tractor was doing 20 mph making the car drop to around 18 - 20 mpg

quote:

oi!! we put milk on your cerial, meat on your bbq and bread for your sarnies!



Yeah but this one wasnt carrying anything





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MikeCapon

posted on 24/6/09 at 10:49 AM Reply With Quote
I used to like tractors a lot.



Now I'm an ex tractor fan...

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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 10:50 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeCapon
I used to like tractors a lot.



Now I'm an ex tractor fan...


Thats bad





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02GF74

posted on 24/6/09 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
how can the mpg drop if your going slower behind a tractor?


The tractor was doing 20 mph making the car drop to around 18 - 20 mpg




why is that? surely the resistance to forward motion, namely air resistance, is much less at lower speed so less petrol needed?

I've heard that car manufacturer's optimize engine parameters to get best mpg at the speeds for which the car mags/gov test the mpgs at but still mpg should have gone up not down.

I am assuming you used the optimum gear so can anyone explain?






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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/6/09 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
how can the mpg drop if your going slower behind a tractor?


The tractor was doing 20 mph making the car drop to around 18 - 20 mpg




why is that? surely the resistance to forward motion, namely air resistance, is much less at lower speed so less petrol needed?

I've heard that car manufacturer's optimize engine parameters to get best mpg at the speeds for which the car mags/gov test the mpgs at but still mpg should have gone up not down.

I am assuming you used the optimum gear so can anyone explain?


Clearly he sat there in second gear revving away trying to get past probably pounding the steering wheel and swearing a lot

my bike is brill for such occasions and it does 100mpg +






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blakep82

posted on 24/6/09 at 11:28 AM Reply With Quote
my car gets better mpg at 40mph than it does at 30, same at 80 over 70.





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matt_claydon

posted on 24/6/09 at 11:33 AM Reply With Quote
The reason is that engines are not very efficient at low loads.

Air resistance goes up with the square of road speed, but engine efficiency also improves with increased speed and load (up to a point). If you drew a graph you would find the lines cross somewhere and this would be the optimum speed to drive at.

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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 11:58 AM Reply With Quote
She is automatic (4 speed +overdrive). She doesnt change into 3rd until about 25.





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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 11:58 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
my car gets better mpg at 40mph than it does at 30, same at 80 over 70.


Same as mine





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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/6/09 at 12:16 PM Reply With Quote
hmm I suppose so, I think my bluebird being an auto also behaves the same, though I think the overdrive cuts in around 30mph if I back off on the pedal. I'll have a check next time I use it






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smart51

posted on 24/6/09 at 12:22 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
I was well on target to break an average of 30 mpg on a 70 mile round jounnery (first half in rush hour) in my jag today when a tractor pulled out infront of me on the way home
When i got home the mpg had dropped to 27.5



My Peugeot sometimes drops to about 50 MPG but thats when I go faster not slower. 27.5 MPG? My BEC used to do better than that.






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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
I was well on target to break an average of 30 mpg on a 70 mile round jounnery (first half in rush hour) in my jag today when a tractor pulled out infront of me on the way home
When i got home the mpg had dropped to 27.5



My Peugeot sometimes drops to about 50 MPG but thats when I go faster not slower. 27.5 MPG? My BEC used to do better than that.


But was your bec a 3.2 litre, 2 ton beast?

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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/6/09 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
ever considered converting it to run on autogas?






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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 12:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
ever considered converting it to run on autogas?


Yep but a) cant afford the conversion and b) how long will it be before government put the price of lpg to the same as petrol?





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Mr Whippy

posted on 24/6/09 at 12:57 PM Reply With Quote
I fitted a kit to the bluebird that was just over £500, it would take less than a year for it to pay for itself on my car (45mpg) if I wasn't using the little bike so much






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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 01:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I fitted a kit to the bluebird that was just over £500, it would take less than a year for it to pay for itself on my car (45mpg) if I wasn't using the little bike so much


Last time i looked, they were £1500 and i was reading horror stories about their fitment. How long do you think ot would take to pay for itself if i only do 3000 per year?





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Benzine

posted on 24/6/09 at 06:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
how long will it be before government put the price of lpg to the same as petrol?


You've been saying that for years and it's still half

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=87251



[Edited on 24/6/09 by Benzine]






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Wheels244

posted on 24/6/09 at 06:38 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jasongray5
oi!! we put milk on your cerial, meat on your bbq and bread for your sarnies!


and cr*p all over my car

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Benzine

posted on 24/6/09 at 06:53 PM Reply With Quote
The workshop I rent is next to a couple of old chaps who spend all day playing around with vintage tractors and smoking cigars. This is what I plan to do when I'm old






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speedyxjs

posted on 24/6/09 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
how long will it be before government put the price of lpg to the same as petrol?


You've been saying that for years and it's still half

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=87251



[Edited on 24/6/09 by Benzine]


Hey... That was 14 months ago. I wouldnt call that years
I will probably look into it though now i know its much cheaper than i thought. Just got to save the £500





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