cd.thomson
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 04:23 PM |
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completely fed up pt 2 - chassis advice
Now I know nothing about chassis design guys, but what would you do with this tube (the sloping right hand one thats in the way of the starter
motor)?
So far my ideas including banging it with a big hammer and getting rid completely 
sorry for the horrible dingy photo
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rayward
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 04:32 PM |
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is it hactually hitting the starter motor?, or just the solenoid?
if its just the solenoid you could mount it away from the starter which may be an easier option?
hth
Ray
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big_wasa
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 04:34 PM |
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Cut it out and make a new one up, try and get some one local to weld it up.
If you have a trailer and want to have a ride to spalding I would do it for you.
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 04:34 PM |
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thanks for the reply ray, how would I go about moving the solenoid? how does it operate? although it is separate from the main body it is built into
the starter casing as a single unit.
I had considered this as the easiest option but then couldnt see a way of moving it.
Craig
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 04:57 PM |
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where would you move it to big_wasa?
I considered fitting a new one on the round downtube at the end of the drivers footwell, but that would be a tricky weld, and tricky to fab the pipe
to fit there in the first place?
Craig
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 05:25 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rayward
is it hactually hitting the starter motor?, or just the solenoid?
if its just the solenoid you could mount it away from the starter which may be an easier option?
It looks pre-engaged to me, meaning the solenoid is attached to an arm which moves the starter motor pinion into the flywheel before switching the
power to it. In other words, it cant be moved.
Is there any way of raising the engine slightly so it has a few mm clearance? It quite hard to see in the pic but it looks as though your engine is
almost where it wants to be anyway.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 05:28 PM |
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ah okay  no the rear of the engine is much too high, the bottom of the gearbox floats about 2 inches above the gearbox mount when attached on both
engine mounts.
Craig
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 05:54 PM |
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Ok, how about getting the problem tube moved over to the left a bit? Im sure someone local to you on here will be able to offer their services for a
few beer tokens?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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big_wasa
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 05:59 PM |
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If you moved it to the other side of that bracket would it clear the steering rack ?
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 06:17 PM |
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no it wouldnt
i know this isnt going to be popular, but what would be the effects of simply removing that bar?
the reason being that the previous owner saw fit to seal and rivet the interior fibreglass footwell panels in place, making welding in that area
difficult and dangerous.
Craig
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omega0684
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 06:27 PM |
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engine out and stick a pinto in  PROBLEM SOLVED! Sorry no help, just ignore me
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SteveWalker
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 06:45 PM |
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Is it possible to modify the starter at all to rotate it to a different angle? Or possibly change to a different but compatible starter?
How about moving the solenoid a few inched towards the front of the car and making some sort of extension operating arm?
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sickbag
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 07:03 PM |
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Try to source an inertia starter motor - maybe one from a low capacity Fiesta or Escort.
Might be worth taking a template of the mounting holes to the breakers and have a look around.
Finally back on the job!
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Peteff
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 07:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sickbag
Try to source an inertia starter motor - maybe one from a low capacity Fiesta or Escort.
Inertia starters and ring gear have different shaped teeth to pre-engaged. I'd get the angle grinder out and cut it out as it looks like it will
cause steering column problems as well. The fibreglass floor should be no problem for replacing the strut with one in a slightly different location or
just leave it out if it doesn't flex.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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t.j.
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 07:50 PM |
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remove!
Not the starter but the bar.
You can easily find an other way for the needed strenght. The locost, tiger, etc doesn't have such diagonal.
grtz
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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02GF74
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| posted on 20/7/09 at 08:03 PM |
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sympathies - I had this recently with gearbox bulge for starter motor - solved by cutting tube out and rewelding in different position, unfortunately
mine could not be omitted - yours looks like an addition.
I doubt you can do much about the starter/solenoid so the tube has to go - looks like it fouls the steering column too.
Can't suggest if and how you need to fit a replacement tube without seeing diagram/better photos of your chassis.
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 21/7/09 at 08:20 AM |
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the tube will be coming out this weekend as I'm not sure its entirely necessary - i think it might be extra strengthening for 400bhp dax
monsters.
Craig
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MK9R
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| posted on 21/7/09 at 10:30 AM |
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when you cut the tube, leave about 70mm of the tube welded in place, you could then get a larger tube with same internal dimeter as the outer of the
cut tube bent so it misses the starter and slide it in place, obviously one end would have to be open so it could be pushed into place, then have it
all welded at some stage
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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