James
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| posted on 24/6/04 at 08:03 PM |
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Martial Locosters
Was just wondering if anyone else here does any martial arts/ fighting sports?
I've done Savate (one of the many kickboxing variants) for a few years now and think it's great. I'm pretty sure PTM did or does
something like Shotokan(sp?) Karate and I think Merlin used to do some kickboxing aswell.
Anyone else?
James
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Peteff
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| posted on 24/6/04 at 08:08 PM |
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Black belt in Origami, well that about wraps it up for me.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Alan B
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| posted on 24/6/04 at 08:42 PM |
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A mate of mine had a business offering Origami classes.......but it folded...
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Peteff
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| posted on 24/6/04 at 09:36 PM |
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He obviously wasn't worth the paper he was printed on Alan.. Seriously though I did get a green belt (Judo) many years ago.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 24/6/04 at 10:18 PM |
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I still have the marks on my arms that I got moving the big fiery pot after I'd finished my training.
atb
steve
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alister667
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| posted on 24/6/04 at 10:25 PM |
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I was a blue belt in Wado Ryu Karate, this was maybe 14 years ago. Then I went to uni, and discovered pinting and wimmin
Of course I'd be as soft as an ice cream in hell these days!
To be fair I really enjoyed the pinting and wimmin so it was the right choice!!
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alister667/
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 24/6/04 at 11:07 PM |
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Ju-Jitsu.
Hey just realised this is my 500 post. Not bad for the ninth person to join this forum.
[Edited on 24/6/2004 by paulbeyer]
7 out of 10 people suffer with hemorrhoids. Does that mean the other 3 enjoy them?
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locoboy
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 09:45 AM |
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My best buddy did the riot police instructors course in the Yoshinkan Aikido Dojo in Tokyo 2 years ago (ever read the book "Angry white
Pyjamas" by Robert Twigger? - Good read too, humerous yet scary
review here) it
was this book that inspired him to go and do the course, 6 days a week trainging for 8 hours a day, he didnt miss one day through injury, hangover or
illness in the whole year and was voted 3rd place on the course and was subsequently asked to come back and help instruct - not bad for a bloke who
has only done in his words "basic Aikido" for 2 years before. He is still out there in is 3rd year now and still instructing and showing
the lovely lolitas some English action no doubt. I would be right behind him in a fight ,
im a fairly hefty chap and he made me kick the microwave off the work surface in my kitchen when he was at home last christmas only using his one
hand - twat! Not that i would ever call him that
Some of the stories he has and the video footage of him being thrown and basically dusting the cobwebs off the ceiling with his feet are amazing. I
had the chance to read his diary too, every night be filled it in and that was just truely awsome, thay got to a stage where they were putting
sanitary towels on their shoulder blades to stop the friction burns as a result of hours of practicing "break falls" (basically, standing
upright and falling onto your back!) bleeding through their "White Pyjamas" and one guy ran up a 8000 US$ bill at the bone setting clinic
which is conveniently placed next door
Strangely enough he is one of the most placid chilled out people i know and always has been.
ATB
Locoboy
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 09:59 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by colmaccoll
Strangely enough he is one of the most placid chilled out people i know and always has been.
Often the case with people who are totally confident that they can cope with anything anyone can throw at them...
... I worked with a lad who could maim or kill anyone he chose just with his hands or feet, but I've seen him walk calmly away from an argument
rather than take physical action, even when was getting major verbal abuse.
David
[Edited on 25/6/04 by David Jenkins]
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locoboy
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 10:08 AM |
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too true but he has not always been able to cope with anything, he has only been doing this for 5 years in total now and i have been good buddies with
him for 18 years.
i recall a particular story that i even saw press cuttings of involving their top Japanese instructor (reputidly the worlds best) i=on works night
out! and 3 US marine bouncers in a Tokyo night club, just use your imagination and you wont be far wrong
ATB
Locoboy
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James
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 11:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by paulbeyer
Ju-Jitsu.
[Edited on 24/6/2004 by paulbeyer]
"Ju-Jitsu? I'm going to learn Ju-Jitsu?"
Neo, The Matrix
First thing he learns- so it must be a good sport! I like watching Ju Jitsu and the Gracie(sp?) Ju-Jitsu guys virtually always win the fights where
they mix disciplines largely because of their quality ground work.
I nearly started Ju-Jitsu myself but a friend who did it at that club advised against it because of the damage to joints from all the lock holds!
Savate (which I do), being the thing Neo learns second!
...and someone told me that... honest... I didn't go through that scene on freeze-frame... honest... 
Cheers,
ex- Matrix Obsessive
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James
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 11:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by colmaccoll
Strangely enough he is one of the most placid chilled out people i know and always has been.
Often the case with people who are totally confident that they can cope with anything anyone can throw at them...
... I worked with a lad who could maim or kill anyone he chose just with his hands or feet, but I've seen him walk calmly away from an argument
rather than take physical action, even when was getting major verbal abuse.
David
[Edited on 25/6/04 by David Jenkins]
Fair comment actually. I'd say I'm far less likely to get in a fight/pub brawl since doing Kickboxing. I frankly just can't be
arsed! And that's setting aside the fact that punching people messes your hands up and then you can't train.
Thinking about it, if someone started on me, I'd rather invite them down to the club where we can put on boxing gloves and 'do it
properly' than in a pub!
That way your hands don't get smashed up and no one's going to 'cheat' by knifing you or bottling/glassing you! I'm ugly
enough as it is without getting my face slashed thank you very much!
Happy fighting,
James
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 11:58 AM |
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It was a waste of time
He beats the crap out of the 100 agent smiths, and they always get up.
So why fight?
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by James
quote:
Originally posted by paulbeyer
Ju-Jitsu.
[Edited on 24/6/2004 by paulbeyer]
"Ju-Jitsu? I'm going to learn Ju-Jitsu?"
Neo, The Matrix
First thing he learns- so it must be a good sport! I like watching Ju Jitsu and the Gracie(sp?) Ju-Jitsu guys virtually always win the fights where
they mix disciplines largely because of their quality ground work.
I nearly started Ju-Jitsu myself but a friend who did it at that club advised against it because of the damage to joints from all the lock holds!
Savate (which I do), being the thing Neo learns second!
...and someone told me that... honest... I didn't go through that scene on freeze-frame... honest...
Cheers,
ex- Matrix Obsessive
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James
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 12:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
It was a waste of time
He beats the crap out of the 100 agent smiths, and they always get up.
Err, you saw how I signed it:
"Cheers,
ex- Matrix Obsessive"
I think the key there is the "ex"!!!
The Matrix was fantastic- if ever you could say a film changed your life then I would say that film did that for me.
The Matrix Reloaded was a interesting in the concepts it raised but the fighting became hollywood-ised OTT rubbish. But still mildly entertaining.
The Matrix Revolutions- had two people with the powers of Superman fighting (boring) and they completely ignored all the 'deeper' issues
evoked by Reloaded.
Needless to say I was rather disappointed! 
But I still love The Matrix!
Cheers,
James
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Peteff
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 01:32 PM |
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I broke a collar bone doing Judo.
It wasn't mine so it was alright though, he landed badly off the mat from a hip throw trying not to go down instead of accepting the inevitable.
This was over 30 years ago now and probably explains some of my present day aches and pains.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 01:55 PM |
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I didnt find the matrix life changing.
Just a bit of escapist science fiction with a silly unlikely plot.
In the second movie, eveyone in the cinema laffed when the 'key maker' was found - what a joke.
The best bit was 'you must kiss me like you kiss her, make me feel like she does. Or I wont show you the key maker.'
And the demanding horny kisshound is a computer program?
Erm......
I didnt see the third film.
I saw rollerball when I was 17 and it made me feel I could kick over passing motorbikes. But I grew up (supposedly).
Soppy films like 'its a wonderful life' could be life changing, but never the matrix!
atb
steve
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Jumpy Guy
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 03:16 PM |
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Been doing Shotokan Karate since i was six.
hmm bloody hell thats a long time!
and some Chinese arts when I lived there.
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James
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 03:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
Soppy films like 'its a wonderful life' could be life changing, but never the matrix!
(Still refering to the 1st one) 
Don't get me wrong- I'm not saying it is or should be for everyone (life changing) but for me it was.
I certainly didn't have much going on in my life at the time- mostly work (11/12 hour days) and visiting my friends (who'd been rude
enough to all bugger off to uni) at weekends.
Moment I finished watching it I knew that I loved the film and I had to learn to do that stuff.
3 months later I joined the local kickboxing class. There I met my lovely girlfriend, met a great group of people some of whom are now really good
friends, and have gained all the benefits we talked about earlier (confidence, fitness etc. etc.) of learning a fighting sport. I'm pretty much
at the top of my game, I'm a qualified/insured instructor, and on Tuesday I fly to Bulgaria to represent Great Britain in the World
Championships. My girlfriend is European Silver Medalist at the 2003 championships.
None of this would have happened if it wasn't for that film!
So, as I said, for me, it was a life changing experience!
Anyway, I'm sounding a bit preachy here so I'm gonna go back and do some riveting! 
James
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 03:36 PM |
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Now I understand!
Thats pretty impressive.
So, I take it that you can now hover in mid air, and that your girlfiend can kick your ass, and instead of a cold sholder, a broken one
atb
steve
ps
is kickboxing the same as thai boxing? Jus that when I did a web search on bulgaria not much came up......
[Edited on 25/6/04 by stephen_gusterson]
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mackie
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 03:54 PM |
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Wow, that's impressive James.
How long have you been doing it?
You've actually just inspired me to go back to Aikido, not strictly speaking a fighting art but I really enjoyed what I did (this was a couple
of years back now).
- A lardy feeling Mackie.
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James
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 05:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
Now I understand!
Thats pretty impressive.
So, I take it that you can now hover in mid air, and that your girlfiend can kick your ass, and instead of a cold sholder, a broken one
atb
steve
ps
is kickboxing the same as thai boxing? Jus that when I did a web search on bulgaria not much came up......
[Edited on 25/6/04 by stephen_gusterson]
Unfortunately the hovering in the air is still eluding me!
In a controlled contact fight my girlfriend is probably (just! ) better than me as her technique is a bit better. If we went full power though then
I'd win.
It was a great shame she didn't get Gold at Italy 2003. There was split decision between the judges and this was after she'd had one of
her contact lenses knocked out 30seconds into the 1st round! I reckon if she could've seen then she might have won!
Thai Boxing is just a variant of Kickboxing and there are probably hundreds of variants. Savate (which I do) is just another variant. The two differ
in that in Thai you can elbow and knee people and you actually kick with your shin. It's also done in bare feet (AFAIK!).
In Savate you only kick with the feet and punch with your hands but we have a couple of moves that I haven't seen in Thai. We also wear hard
tipped boots instead of bare feet. In fact Savate is a combination of an only kicking art (the original Savate) plus full English boxing rules.
I did a few weeks of Thai and couldn't walk properly for days after each session so I didn't stick with that!
Mackie,
Not that impressive- fortunately not many people do it in the UK so it's easy to rise to the top!
I've been doing it 4 years. At the moment 3 sessions a week.
I don't really know much about Aikido- my girlfriend did it for awhile and didn't like it so started this instead. After reading about
that book (I might go buy it tomorrow) it's gone massively up in my estimation!
I've tried Free style Kung Fu, Thai, Wing Chun- maybe it's time for a bit of Aikido! 
James
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 06:20 PM |
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in the matrix when they do that flying kick thing they stop motion in the air - ie hovering.
as apposed to hoovering, which I do on occasion if I dont want to have my wife practising violence on me
atb
steve
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mackie
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 11:26 PM |
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Well good luck James!
There was a guy at Uni who did Thai boxing and I think you chose the right one because it seemed really quite brutal (he had all sorts of nasty breaks
and fractures).
Aikido is an interesting one, some of the things you get taught seem quite silly when you do them but when you see the end result being performed by
someone with tons of experience it is a sight to behold.
I was tempted by Kung Fu aswell but aikido suits my non-aggressive nature more I think.
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 11:38 PM |
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I've been practicing Tai Chi for just over 3 years now. I got into it for the relaxation aspect and then found out it was actually a fighting
art. I now regularly practice Quinna (locking and throwing) and Tui Shou (pushing hands \ martial application of Tai Chi form) as well as the long
Yang form and Qigong relaxation \ meditation aspects of the art.
Also dabble with Bagua and various other Chinese martial arts (normally just stealing moves or studying their ways of doing things to improve my Tai
Chi)
So if you think Tai Chi is about old ladies doing slow graceful movements, think again I regularly come home from training bruised (but always
relaxed).
I have trained in Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Jujitsu and Judo in my time but Tai Chi for me suits me best. No lines of students practicing moves military
style, no having to do 50 push ups for not trying hard enough (or the instructor not liking you). Tai Chi (and many other Chinese arts) are all about
accurately judging your opponents intentions and then using their strength and momentum against them. It's real fun unbalancing someone twice
your size and weight with very little effort on your part.
[Edited on 25/6/04 by givemethebighammer]
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mackie
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| posted on 26/6/04 at 01:03 AM |
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The principals of aikido seem to be similar to those of tai chi. It also is about using one's opponents strength and weight against them and is
based around flowing circular movements. Plenty of locking and throwing, then
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