whitestu
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 05:02 PM |
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OT Anyone know about loft conversions?
We are looking at this house and may buy it if we could get a loft conversion done. There is enough height in the roof, but given how the roof comes
down to the 1st floor at the front - to the left of the front door, I can't work out whether we could get a full hip to gable wall built at both
sides.
We would need this to get somewhere to put the loft stairs.
 
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What do you think?
Cheers
Stu
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panichat
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 05:20 PM |
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We had a loft conversion done a few years ago that has been really good... BUT have you looked carefully at all the fire regs - we had to get an
escape corridor put across the edge of one of our downstairs rooms at the whim of the building official before our's could be signed off.
It's worth checking very carefully.
Dave
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zilspeed
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 05:22 PM |
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Ooohh, so many issues.
The front is both single storey and two storey.
The single storey bit would be better off converted to two storey by continuing the front elevation up to two storey level.
But.
The structure directly above the door at the single storey part would not lend itself well to such alteration without bring stripped out and
redone.
Also
Because the eaves detail at the single storey bit starts so low, width at the second joist level is seriously restricted.
Take the roof off, make it all two storey, put a new roof on with attic trusses, there you go.
A usefully large attic area.
Nice and complicated.
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coozer
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 05:30 PM |
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Anythings possible within the constraints of the roof structure and more importantly building control.
Is there any other conversions in the street? Is there a massive king post and other structural beams in the way?
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 05:37 PM |
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best bet is to get a local conversion specialist to have a look. The vendor should be happy with this if they want to sell the house.
The local knowledge is important, things seem to vary council to council (this may have changed with recent planning law changes??) Be aware the house
looks quite extended already, so planning would be needed I think. Neighbours may be unhappy if you lose the hips (they lose a lot of light)
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NeilP
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 05:41 PM |
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Loads of professional architects have lost work on the decline of new building - have a look online and I bet you could get a free 'it can be
done' and then a proper 'it would look like this' for notta lotta wonga...
Edit: P.s. Most conversions get approved under permitted devlopment unless it's more than a 20% increase in the original house volume - and
watch for wierd local planning bylaws and constraints - you'll need someone who's worked with the local Building Control Inspectors
before...
[Edited on 3/3/2011 by NeilP]
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Peteff
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 06:16 PM |
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There are a lot of safety regulations concerning loft conversions and a lot of hoops to jump through. That looks complicated and expensive. Can we see
it from on top via google earth? 
yours, Pete
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stevegough
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 08:18 PM |
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It is very much a buyer's market at the moment - With millions of houses out there - why buy one which is likely to be too small for your needs
in the first place? 
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whitestu
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 08:23 PM |
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Thanks guys - I'm fairly sure that under permitted development we could get the loft done up to 50m2, but not sure how the front elevation could
be reworked to facilitate a hip to gable on both sides.
I've spoken to a local builder who does lofts. He was helpful and reckons it can be done but couldn't explain how the roof issues would be
resolved, and I think I've used up my credit of free advice from him.
Maybe I need to speak to another builder.
There are other conversion on the street but none on houses with similar roof structures.
The postcode is WD33bp for a satellite view on Google maps
Cheers
Stu
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 08:30 PM |
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Sounds like it might be easier, cheaper and a lot less hassle to get an extension out the back
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Liam
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| posted on 3/3/11 at 09:20 PM |
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Errr, dont see what the issue is. How does that extension of the roof line down to the front door effect what you do with the loft? Just convert the
hip to a gable...
 
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Same on other side.
If planning department let you.
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whitestu
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| posted on 4/3/11 at 09:59 PM |
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I won't need planning for that - permitted development allows a full dormer and hip to gable on both sides. It's the building up of the
front wall that I'm not sure about.
The local planning dept have promised to call me back on Monday so we'll see.
Thanks for the help.
Stu
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Blackbird Rush
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| posted on 4/3/11 at 10:28 PM |
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Just up the road from me.
Loads of loft conversions have been done recently in croxley, so shouldn't be a planning problem, the major hurdle will be the cost from the
builder as decent loft conversions don''t come cheap, but the extra room will add value.
Been thinking about getting my loft converted but the main problem is finding somewhere to run the stairs where there is enough headroom without
messing with the roof, but as you will need to add roof windows / dormer window then there's an element of roof reworking to be done anyway.
If the roof is not lined under the tiles (mine isn't) then all the tiles need to come off anyway!
Ash.
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whitestu
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| posted on 5/3/11 at 10:28 AM |
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quote:
Just up the road from me.
Loads of loft conversions have been done recently in croxley, so shouldn't be a planning problem, the major hurdle will be the cost from the
builder as decent loft conversions don''t come cheap, but the extra room will add value.
Been thinking about getting my loft converted but the main problem is finding somewhere to run the stairs where there is enough headroom without
messing with the roof, but as you will need to add roof windows / dormer window then there's an element of roof reworking to be done anyway.
If the roof is not lined under the tiles (mine isn't) then all the tiles need to come off anyway!
Fitting the stairs in is the bit that is difficult with this house unless that front bit is raised up. We had a loft conversion on our current house
and it has been great. We would be expecting the work to cost the best part of £50k on this house.
There aren't many other houses that would suit us so we have to compromise on buying something we need to change to make it suit us.
Whereabouts are you in Croxley Ash?
Cheers
Stu
[Edited on 5/3/11 by whitestu]
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Blackbird Rush
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| posted on 5/3/11 at 07:34 PM |
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Stu u2u
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