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02GF74

posted on 30/6/11 at 09:16 AM Reply With Quote
I fell off my chair when I saw the price

Was £ 4300 now £ 2580








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dhutch

posted on 30/6/11 at 09:21 AM Reply With Quote
Urrrm, yeah. Fair drop, but that is what they cost.
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rallyingden

posted on 30/6/11 at 09:23 AM Reply With Quote
If they can afford that much then they should pay road tax like all of us

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mcerd1

posted on 30/6/11 at 09:25 AM Reply With Quote
you'll need a set of forks to go with that
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=54739




but if you'd rather have a complete bike have a look at these: linky - its a bargan compared to the yeti


my brother normaly spends £4000+ on a new bike for racing (downhill) but thats nothing compared to the guys with sponsors


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YQUSTA

posted on 30/6/11 at 09:33 AM Reply With Quote
many years ago when I was young I was lucky enough to try 1 of the first Trek full suspension bikes before they were released for sale and talking to the guys it was guessed to be around £3000 worth I was shocked my Dimond back axis cost me £600 and I thought that was alot at 16, but thats what tech costs.

In comparison look at what a carbon bonnet costs compared to grp it starts to stack up.





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jossey

posted on 30/6/11 at 09:43 AM Reply With Quote
Why you moaning. When i bought mine all I got was a FREE bottom bracket (worth £60)

NO discount lol





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02GF74

posted on 30/6/11 at 09:50 AM Reply With Quote
I do not see what is so special about the Yeti frame to justify the price - to my untrained eye, a skill TIG welder could make that up; let's say 50 % profit and annual salary of £ 24 k; that equates to a months work .... so a fair chunk must go to paying for the name and design.






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scootz

posted on 30/6/11 at 10:01 AM Reply With Quote
Crikey, I hope that's the prototype frame and includes all the R&D costs / manufacturing rights!

Ridiculous price!







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Davey D

posted on 30/6/11 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
What is also annoying about bike frames ( as well as many other things when you look into it) There are only a handful of frame builders out there. Most of the big names are built in the same factories, so your £2.5k frame could be being built in the same chinese factory that is building a load of the cheaper stuff. Using the same grades of material, the same people welding, and painting etc and you then do realise how much you are paying for the name

Ive got a Norco full sus bike. They are a canadian company, but im sure the frames are all still built in one of the chinese factories like everything else

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motorcycle_mayhem

posted on 30/6/11 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
Usual nonsense.

Something like "was £9845.00" now .... would be equally irrelevant in the 'real' world.

If someone wants one, they'll pay, no problem. If they don't, they won't.

Comical, yes, but the house 'adverts' have me smiling too: Lovely deceptive 2 bed semi..... previously reduced from £450,000,000 to £449,000,000 but now offered at £448,999,000 for 2 weeks only for quick sale.....

Hmmm... need to advertise that old Pinto powered Robin Hood again due to 'timewasters', I've changed the headlamp bulb this year, so need to add that on top too..... £56,001.00 for quick sale, no messers or dreamers.

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indykid

posted on 30/6/11 at 10:47 AM Reply With Quote
I'm not saying it's good or bad in practice, but look at the linkage. It's not like the simple full sus mountain bikes argos sell with nylon bushes in the swing arm. How much do the bearings for the parallel slides cost to be sufficiently robust to cope with that abuse?

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Originally posted by rallyingden
If they can afford that much then they should pay road tax like all of us

RD

How much time do you think it would spend on the road? They no doubt have at least 1 if not 2 cars too so it's not like they're not chipping into the pot. If they're on their bike, they're not in their car, but they're still paying for it to be sat idle.

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Originally posted by 02GF74
I do not see what is so special about the Yeti frame to justify the price - to my untrained eye, a skill TIG welder could make that up; let's say 50 % profit and annual salary of £ 24 k; that equates to a months work .... so a fair chunk must go to paying for the name and design.

I'll come to you for all my dampers, milling, bearings and paint. You do them for free

If they make enough on these that they can afford to offer the lower tech stuff at a more reasonable price, I'm happy. Like road bikes, most models in that price range will be bought by sponsors or by rich kids with more money than sense.

Moreover, if the market will stand the price for a luxury item, why not? We should really be arguing about petrol and bread prices! £1.35 for a loaf of bloody bread?

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mcerd1

posted on 30/6/11 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Crikey, I hope that's the prototype frame and includes all the R&D costs / manufacturing rights!

Ridiculous price!

they'll only sell a couple of hundred at most then the new one will come out and it'll be 0.1 seconds quicker so you'll have to buy it to....
when it comes to prices I recon they just think of a number and quadruple it - afterall they've got to pay for all there pro riders and adverts somehow


but for the rest of us - do you need a bike capable of being riden off the side of a mountain at 60+ mph ?
(that'll also be almost imposible to ride on the flat/uphill)

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Stott

posted on 30/6/11 at 11:08 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
Was £ 4300 now £ 2580




Ha Ha you got that email this morning too then!

What surprised me is that for some of the other frames the discount is £500 ish which I thought was ok, could've done better, but I then clicked on a few to nose at the pics and noticed they are pretty much all in stock in every size! so CRC stand to lose a lot of dough here! Imagine £500 off (min) on every frame they've got in hand, it's gonna add up quickly!

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MikeRJ

posted on 30/6/11 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
Looks like an unnecessarily complicated suspension design to me, those linear bearings are almost certainly going to introduce more stiction than a simple bushed/bearing pivot would. Doubt it will last long when covered in dirt either - there doesn't seem to have been any effort made to protect the rails of the linear bearing.



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posted on 30/6/11 at 12:52 PM Reply With Quote
You still have to pedal it though!

You could buy a mental 160+ mph Superbike for that price.





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scootz

posted on 30/6/11 at 12:53 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
... but for the rest of us - do you need a bike capable of being riden off the side of a mountain at 60+ mph?



Even my old Raleigh Grifter could easily be ridden off the side of a mountain at 60mph! In fact, if the mountain was high enough and its side steep enough, then I'm sure it could even reach 125mph-ish!







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02GF74

posted on 30/6/11 at 12:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by indykid
quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
I do not see what is so special about the Yeti frame to justify the price - to my untrained eye, a skill TIG welder could make that up; let's say 50 % profit and annual salary of £ 24 k; that equates to a months work .... so a fair chunk must go to paying for the name and design.

I'll come to you for all my dampers, milling, bearings and paint. You do them for free




If I had the machinery and earned £ 2 k per month then sure, no probs.

I am looking from the materials and conbstruction point of view. Materials is not going to be more than £ 300 say so the rest is going to be labour.

Just lke when I look at a Porsche or Ferrrarrrri engine and wonder if a man with a big mill could not make one? Certainly one could be made from a solid block but the cost also include R&D that I do not factor into the equation.






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Staple balls

posted on 30/6/11 at 01:31 PM Reply With Quote
Having had owned more than my fair share of retardedly spendy pushbikes, I generally found the extra cash well spent in most cases.

A frame like that will have had a fair amount of R&D, especially given maybe they'll sell a thousand of them, not to mention the suspension (which I can't even fathom right now) has to not only let you get power down as well as possible, but soak up little hits, big hits, and ideally have the back wheel travel as close to vertically as possible. oh, and it'd be nice if it weight less than 15lbs. So that'll be custom drawn double/triple butted tube.

Oh yeah, and not break when a 6'4" monster with legs like trees throws himself off a 30' drop the fun side of 60 mph.


So, if anyone wants to make me one cheap, go ahead






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