John Davis
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| posted on 30/7/04 at 09:40 PM |
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Sport cars and bikers
Just wondered if like most sport car owners if kit car owners slag off bikers or not. Being a biker myself and a car lover it always seems the bikers
get a bit of abuse (Jeremy Clarkson rings any bells).
Seems like a little respect is needed for bikes here lads do you not think, after all how many bikes do you see with car engines in huh, 2.0 pinto in
a suzuki Hayabusa, eh maybe not a.
Bye and thankyou, John
PS Im after a kit car with BIKE engine by the way
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Brooky
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| posted on 30/7/04 at 09:42 PM |
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yes , they are all big girlies........(me hides in my drunken corner)
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 30/7/04 at 09:44 PM |
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stop n have plenty a "ciggys" n chat with bikers, 99% of em are very interested in peeking at a bike engine in a car, had a play with a
few once, they pulled up n we was gassing for ages,
dont think ive ever heard a bad word for bikers amongst the kit cat world.
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Brooky
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| posted on 30/7/04 at 09:53 PM |
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Nahhh only joking. I respect them as long as they dont get on their ' you never saw me ' high horse.
as a car driver I dont generally expect to find a biker "doin 120 on one knee" around a sweeping bend.
I dont expect bikers to nip in between lanes of traffic on the m/way or A roads as they are a lane of traffic themselves - not immune as bikers seem
to think.
I do agree that with a bit more planning on all parties behalf, ALL accidents could have been prevented. (speaking as one who has seen enough
accidents to last forever - not a biker, car driver or staticitian) - i think thats how to spell it.
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JoelP
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| posted on 30/7/04 at 10:40 PM |
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they sometimes wee me off when they are driving like prats, but for the large part they are considerate and polite - next time a bike comes up behind
you when you are in a car, try making space for them when they pass you, by moving towards the edge of the road. 90% of the time they thank you as
they pass. always makes me smile that one.
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/7/04 at 10:46 PM |
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There'll be lots of bikes round here this weekend as it's Pentrich rock 'n blues again. Wrong kind of bikes though, all matt black
with aircooled V twin engines and bearded riders. I went years back and somebody tried to nick my mirrors, so much for honour amongst thieves.
Guarantee a few accidents as well as they all drink and get stoned for the weekend and try to ride home without recovering overnight.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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OX
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| posted on 30/7/04 at 11:00 PM |
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im one for nipping in behind cars but try and do it sensibly i work with and ride bikes every day and i think riding bikes has made me more aware of
whats in front and around but you can never tell what any one is going to do,weather its driving in town or on the open road if some one is at a
junction its allways in the back of my mind ,are they going to pull out.i dont own a bike and havnt done for some years but can borrow them from work
but iv had more fun in my kit car for the few months i had it then ever on a bike 
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spunky
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| posted on 30/7/04 at 11:19 PM |
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Some 'ordinary' car drivers cause me problems.
See post 'OUCH'
The reckless man may not live as long......
But the cautious man does not live at all.....
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Brooky
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| posted on 31/7/04 at 07:28 AM |
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Yes i saw that post, and i do agree - that driver needs shooting.
Or you could take him down the bulldog bash and tell the angels what he did LOL.
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spunky
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 posted on 31/7/04 at 07:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Brooky
Yes i saw that post, and i do agree - that driver needs shooting.
Or you could take him down the bulldog bash and tell the angels what he did LOL.
Cheers Brooky,
Rub it in why don't you I was supposed to be at the Rock and Blues this weekend but the inability to walk stopped me. may take my car to the
Bulldog and see if Angels will let me run it down the strip. Well its bike powered innit.
John
The reckless man may not live as long......
But the cautious man does not live at all.....
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alister667
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| posted on 31/7/04 at 09:18 AM |
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I dunno, driving around with no windscreen, a helmet, windproof bikers neckwarmer, bike engine and bike gloves I feel a lot more affinity for bikers
(like not being seen by a lot of dozy tin top drivers) than car drivers.
As someone mentioned, at filling stations they are keen to talk and interested to see it's got a bike engine in.
Before I built my car I paid very little heed/attention to bikes and bikers, but now I know a bit more I find them to be good courteous drivers on the
road and their engines rock!!!
Ali
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alister667/
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john_p_b
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| posted on 31/7/04 at 10:20 AM |
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don't sports car drivers have attitude with just about every road user though??
i personally have a lot of respect for bikers as i socialise a lot with them and have a massive love of bikes but due to the stupidity of the majority
of road users i don't fancy leaving myself so exposed to the front of your average rover 75 being driven by someone who should have sent their
license back many years ago!
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alister667
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| posted on 11/8/04 at 10:25 PM |
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Myself and 3 other NI BEC drivers went to the NI Harley Owners Group meeting in Enniskillen on Sat night. We camped overnight and had a great night
altogether.
We were christened 'The Plastic Car Club' - while we informed the Harley boys that their engines belonged in cement mixers!! It was all
good humoured and we were made to feel very welcome and it was a great night.
Bikers Rock!!
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alister667/
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derf
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| posted on 11/8/04 at 10:48 PM |
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This bike got a chevy 350 v8 in it, guy down the street from me has one, says it handle terribly, but can spin the tire in any gear
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 11/8/04 at 10:55 PM |
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the 'car pulls out on bike at junction' scenario is quite common. when I had a bike it happend twice to me in 18 months. one of the guys
even admitted he saw me and still pulled out.
That was 1976 (heck).
In those days the top bikes were things like the kawa Z1. Bikes nowadays have a lot more power. And lets face it, half the bikes or more on the
road are race replica sports bikes. like, they are not meant to be driven fast.......
there are stupid car drivers, and a fair proportion of inconsiderate a$$holes on sports bikes too.
there are faults on both sides. However more often its the biker that doenst tell the tale.
atb
steve
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Hellfire
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 01:23 AM |
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I sincerley believe that if car drivers had to pass a bike test before being allowed to provisionally drive a car - it would improve road safety for
bikes no end.
Too many car drivers have avoidable accidents in cars. When on a bike the vital "Life Saver" look over the shoulder would prevent lots of
accidents occurring whether on a bike OR in car.
Course some people don't give a t*ss!!!
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marktigere1
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 08:16 AM |
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Having lost my best mate to a bike accident, I've never wanted to own one I must admit, but I do see the massive attraction of them. Great
engines and stonking performance!!
However, as Hellfire said, there are tw@ts on both sides.
Read my post 'Idiot!!'.
Kit cars and Bikes must rule the road
(Or is that world?)
If a bolt is stuck force it.
If it breaks, it needed replacing anyway!!!
(My Dad 1991)
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 09:27 AM |
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put enough sevens on the road, and they too would be in a high category of fatalities.
a small open car with no space between sides and driver, that hasnt been tested to meet crash standards, in my view, will be a lot less survivable in
an accident than an average car.
then people would consider sevens dangerous like a bike......
atb
steve
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Hellfire
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 11:59 AM |
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I dunno. In most tin tops you may have space between you and the side of the car but what then? A bit of tin and plastic coated cardboard. Personally
I'd prefer a nice thick piece of fibreglass and a braced, box section chassis tube. (Although it depends on the type of accident for sure)
I've heard and seen pictures of some bad accidents in sevens, where people have got out and walked away. Not so sure they'd have done the
same had they been in your average tin top.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 12:55 PM |
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a saloon car could take about a foot of deformation from the side before you begin to get crushed against the transmission tunnel.
in a seven there is no where near that.
and all you have at the top is a single bit of inch rhs with some 1.2mm alu over it.
a largish off roader would likely just run over the top of you as a locost is what, about 450mm tall at the driver compartment.....
atb
steve
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alister667
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 05:36 PM |
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With regards the safety aspect of a seven, a lot of people have asked me about it's small size and lack of crumple zones etc.
I would agree with Steve it's no Volvo, but, ultimately, it is a LOT safer in a collision than a bike. That is a more valid comparison I feel.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alister667/
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Bob C
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 06:23 PM |
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I believe spaceframes crumple pretty gracefully in a frontal collision. Side impact the wheels stick out a fair way & would probably offer some
protection, (not much) & ina roll I'd much rather be in a tin-top (apparantly its almost impossible to stop yourself putting an arm out to
try and stop it rolling - ouch)
There's a picture of a crashed avon in the tiger book, my impression is that the 7 fares pretty well in a smash given its low mass. Are there
"mira" type figures for the safety of these things?
Cheers
Bob
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abc
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 07:50 PM |
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It is the "bikers way" if you ever rode one you would know and understand why we do the things we do. Why sit at the back of a traffic jam
on a bike when you can filter through? Down the motorway between middle and outside lane is daft but until you try you won't know what a buzz
that is!
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JoelP
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 09:20 PM |
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buzz or not, driving between lanes on a motorway is foolish. gives bikers a bad rep in general seeing them do that, and if it goes wrong there really
isnt much to be said.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 10:33 PM |
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I saw a dog being run over on holiday. it was hit by a truck. it wasnt dead. it lay there, part of its body crushed, unable to get up, crying for
help. It wasnt nice seeing it there helpless, waiting for the next car to come along and finish it off.
you could be that dog.
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by abc
It is the "bikers way" if you ever rode one you would know and understand why we do the things we do. Why sit at the back of a traffic jam
on a bike when you can filter through? Down the motorway between middle and outside lane is daft but until you try you won't know what a buzz
that is!
[Edited on 12/8/04 by stephen_gusterson]
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