theconrodkid
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 07:35 PM |
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washing machine
in 2005 i splashed out on a Bosch washing machine,it has been trouble free until now.
the water is not getting hot so i suspect the heating element (£50 ish) and i suppose a new set of bearings would be in order.
thing is,is it worth getting the bits and giving it a service or should i just lob it over the fence and get a new one?
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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westf27
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 07:43 PM |
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heater is worth doing and usually a pattern available (connect distribution) but drum bearings not easy on those and pricey if the drum shaft is
foobarred
555
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jacko
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 07:45 PM |
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Get a new one its a chuck-a-way world we live in
NO check how much a new one is first
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 07:53 PM |
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new ones start at £300 ish,i have done bearings on my last one,may have been a hoover,any link to where pattern parts are available?
ill take it to bits at the weekend and see how it goes
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Peteff
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 07:55 PM |
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Just get the heater fixed, the bearings will go on forever. First automatic we had was a Hoover which got crap write ups and it lasted 17 years with
minimal attention apart from motor brushes and a pump before it gave up. Next was an Ariston and it was a total disaster from 11 months on and lasted
6 years. We now have a Zanussi which has been fault free for 5 years and is the smoothest running yet. Have a look on Amazon for heater elements John,
they start at about £13
[Edited on 31/10/11 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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JoelP
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 07:56 PM |
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a new bosch will set you back £300 for the most basic model. Definately get the heater if you are sure that is whats wrong with it!
I think when my next one goes caput, im going to get a miele. You hear of them lasting 20 years, and you also get excellent performance for that time.
Failing that, siemens. Customer had a direct drive one and it was near silent in use.
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jabs
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 08:21 PM |
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I use these people
www.ezee-fix.co.uk/
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Proby
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 08:48 PM |
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I looked at a Miele when mine packed up. Last for years, but with the cheapest model at about £800+ they are not cheap. I weighed up pros and cons of
all, went to buy a Bosch and ended up with a Blomberg? Cost me £280 and it had 3 years parts/labour warranty! My thoughts were £100/year guaranteed
running cost and everything after that is a bonus. Runs well, very quiet and on par with my old Bosch without a doubt!
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BenB
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 09:23 PM |
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Def fix it. There are tons of appliances spare parts places out there. Even if you just consider the hassle of getting rid of the old one it's
worth it.
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 09:57 PM |
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If a good machine, fix it.
When our home machine went potty a while ago, we splashed out on a miele, came with a 10 year bombproof warranty chucked in. Lovely machine too. Not
sure about siemens, sister has one and its been nothing but bother from the start. About 6 repairs in 2 years and counting..........
However, there is some value to buying the cheapest washing machine and adding a 5 year warranty. Thats what we do for out student rentals. The first
one we bought never went wrong on 13 years. Eventually it started leaking as the steel around the door had rusted away at the bottom.
The next house, the cheap machine lasted 4 1/2 years. Went wrong, unrepairable so they repaid us the £200 the machine cost. New one delivered, they
dented it so gave a £30 refund. Total cost for that was £240 with the warranty and the £30
For the 3rd rental, we just replaced the machine after 7 years, went wrong in the first year but since fine. It seems the programmer has died, but
whatever at that age I am not worried. £260 for a new one with 5 year warranty. That's a quid a week.
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JoelP
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| posted on 31/10/11 at 10:55 PM |
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Im no expert but there is a link between miele, siemens, neff and bosch. Its either mostly the same company, or the same factories, but the quality is
broadly in that order, with neff and bosch being mostly equal.
I think the miele machines over 1000 have a ten year warantee, which still works out to 100 a year max, but over those 10 years you have a
phenominally high quality device, compared to the pile of junk i currently have, which will still will work out to 100 a year, but is noisy and jumps
around all the time.
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Bare
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| posted on 1/11/11 at 01:48 AM |
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IMO Bosch is mediocre Crap. Lotsa info on that 'over here'.
The Delusion of 'superior' German Engineering ended with the launch of the Last V2.
Inscrutable Ornamentals, Be they Korean OR Taiwanese both do a Helluva lot better job of it. .. for significantly Less $$.
Suggest a Samsung OR LG
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 1/11/11 at 02:10 AM |
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Think I have to disagree on that one. We were recently shopping for a dishwasher and the bosch items were without doubt the better engineered - more
solid, better laid out, neater, quieter,more options. I think you have to judge all items on their actual results, rather than going with brand
loyalty in any direction.
Buy the heater, fix it, sorted.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 1/11/11 at 07:57 AM |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMYM_j8Uoyk
looks easy peasy
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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hughpinder
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| posted on 1/11/11 at 09:25 AM |
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We have a miele and they are definately in a league of their own. We have several horses, and when you wash the blankets you basically overload the
machines by a factor of at least 2, and they quickly start to break. We had hotpont, aeg, bosch, zanussi and a few others and they mostly lasted 18
months or less. The miele is 10 years old now, and when it stopped working about 3 years ago we called in the local repair man (they charge half the
price for a call out to a miele because the average time to fix is so low), and he replaced one of boards and the door seal (torn dragging a horse
blanket out) under the warranty. Mine was the cheapest machine in the range (about £550 10 years ago, but there was a deal to extend the normal 5 year
waranty to 10 years for £35 which I obviously took). When it was opened up I had a look inside and its all siemens motors and controllers, of a
quality I would normally associate with industrial automation rather than domestic stuff. The cheapest place I found to buy them was the co-op on line
store(something like coopelectricalstore.co.uk)
Regards
Hugh
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 1/11/11 at 04:38 PM |
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SORTED !
took the front off,removed the element,looked at it,wiped some scale off,quick continuity check and replaced it.
lo and behold it is up to temp again
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 2/11/11 at 11:04 AM |
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Nice. Nothing more pleasing than a simple fix to something that would have cost you an engines worth.
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James
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| posted on 2/11/11 at 11:24 AM |
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One of my Savate coaches has been repairing them for 25 years.
At normal money end he reckons Bosch or Zanussi (sold me a Zanussi when my Indesit went (nearly taking the house with it!)).
Top end he says Miele are the best and will last years and years.
But! The problem, as pointed out to me by my girlfriend who's a highly qualified Environmental Consultant, is that the new models are so much
more efficient than the old. So yeah, great- your expensive washing machine has lasted 30 years but it's costing you a damn fortune to run!
If my £250 Zanussi needs replacing every 7 years I may spend a total of £1000 over 21 years. But I get a new machine each time rather than having a
£1000 initial outlay that last 21 years but costs a fortune to run!
Cheers,
James
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 2/11/11 at 11:31 AM |
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quote:
But! The problem, as pointed out to me by my girlfriend who's a highly qualified Environmental Consultant, is that the new models are so much
more efficient than the old. So yeah, great- your expensive washing machine has lasted 30 years but it's costing you a damn fortune to run!
Clearly there's a balance to be had. If you've bought recently you'll find that the lifespan of most modern ones is about 4 years
(most decent ones supply a 3 year warranty - there's a reason they're limited to 3 years). Realising that the technology inside a fairly
modern (last 5 years) model is pretty much as efficient as it's going to get unless some mindblowing step change in technology comes along in
the near future, replacing it is pointless - say the new version is 50% more efficient - at current prices and my current wash rate (3 washes a week
at 1kwh (about 12p) per wash) my current power usage per year is about 19 quid a year for dishwashing. Take one HELL of an improvement and lifespan
improvement to recoup the buying new price for a new dishwasher. Maybe if you're using a 1970s model still it might be worth a change, but not
with anything vaguely modern.
[Edited on 2/11/11 by coyoteboy]
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