ReMan
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 11:51 PM |
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Ebay
Has anyone ever persued a "Non selling seller", (ie you won the item and are trying to pay and make contact etc but are being ignored,
probably as the item has been sold elsewhere as well or not reached the price the seller really wanted even though there was no reserve) either
legally or otherwise?
Or do you just drop it and put it down to experience?
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dave1888
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| posted on 12/8/04 at 11:54 PM |
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If you've not parted with your hard earned then put it down to experiance. I'm having the same problem myself 
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ReMan
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 12:04 AM |
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Not parted with any £ yet, no loss as such.
I have previously, for low value items, just sent payment and maybe an email without batting the proverbial eylid.
This instance was a much greater ££££ and would only have paid on collection anyway.
Hmmmmmmmmmm
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niceperson709
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 01:47 AM |
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Hi there
i've bought and sold things on Ebay and if the seller won't complete the sale REPORT IT TO EBAY and leave NEGATIVE FEED BACK the thing
about Ebay is that for buyers and sellers your reputation is Every thing if a seller recieves to much negative feed back they will be banned . As they
constantly say on Ebay a bid that is accepted constitutes a contract which obliges the seller to supply the goods.DO NOT LET THE SELLER GET AWAY WITH
IT !!!
BEST WISHES
Iain 
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 05:05 AM |
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They just busted a nice fellow in Dundee for a EBAY scam. Selling goods that didnt exist, didnt stop him taking payment for it. So on to them and they
will black list him! They do take some time @8 Million hits a month they have a roaring trade.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 08:46 AM |
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if you read the ebay rules, and the laws of england, a buyer is COMPELLED to buy.
The seller can refuse to sell, no problems. Nothing Ebay can do about it.
atb
steve
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 08:46 AM |
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if you read the ebay rules, and the laws of england, a buyer is COMPELLED to buy.
The seller can refuse to sell, no problems. Nothing Ebay can do about it.
atb
steve
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Peteff
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 09:21 AM |
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They can and will close his account if he is a persistent offender as it does their image no good if people go round telling their friends you
don't get the goods from ebay.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Avoneer
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 11:30 AM |
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Trouble is if you leave negative feedback, chances are they'll leave you some!
If you've not paid, I'd put it down to experience....It's up to you though...
Pat....
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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Skirrow
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 12:02 PM |
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Always leave negative feedback, they will give you some, just respond in a factual manner and people will be able to see who is in the wrong.
The problem with not leaving feedback is that other people will be able to buy from the seller and they will think he has good feedback.
The other, rather sneaky thing you can do if you really dont want to take negative yourself, is wait until the last day you can leave feedback, I
think it;s 30 days after the auctiojn end, might be 90. Leave feedback right at the last minute so he gets his negative and doesn't get chance
to respond.
Or just request his address details and go round and smash his face in.
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ReMan
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 01:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
if you read the ebay rules, and the laws of england, a buyer is COMPELLED to buy.
The seller can refuse to sell, no problems. Nothing Ebay can do about it.
atb
steve
I have read the rules and this is what promted my post.
There surely is a case of bring back the death sentence for Non paying bidders, but when the boot is on the other foot ie. non selling sellers its
tough s**t!
I have already found out where the shyster lives
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ReMan
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 01:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Skirrow
The other, rather sneaky thing you can do if you really dont want to take negative yourself, is wait until the last day you can leave feedback, I
think it;s 30 days after the auctiojn end, might be 90. Leave feedback right at the last minute so he gets his negative and doesn't get chance
to respond.
Or just request his address details and go round and smash his face in.
I like this bit, good idea
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pbura
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 02:05 PM |
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Typically under common law, the auction is an offer, and your winning bid is an acceptance, subject to any terms and conditions in the offer. If it
were important enough, you could go to court and win.
I've winced a few times giving negative feedback, but I've always done everything I should have beforehand, in terms of e-mails, etc., and
have gotten no negative feedback in return. There IS honor among thieves 
Pete
Pete
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ReMan
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 06:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pbura
Typically under common law, the auction is an offer, and your winning bid is an acceptance, subject to any terms and conditions in the offer. If it
were important enough, you could go to court and win.
I've winced a few times giving negative feedback, but I've always done everything I should have beforehand, in terms of e-mails, etc., and
have gotten no negative feedback in return. There IS honor among thieves
Pete
This I think is right, but i`m not sure the same retribution is available under english, rather than US, law?
I really hope my prey is watching this thread
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Skirrow
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 09:32 PM |
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I have had tit for tat negative feedback but I wear it with pride, the people who usually give it are idiots and any buyer reading your negative and
your logical, factual response can see that you are not in the wrong, especially when they read the other guys feedback and the see he has a string of
negatives all saying similar to yours.
One way to sort of defeat the system is to have 2 accounts, one for selling, which you should always get positive for if you are not a conman, you can
build up your positive feedback on this one. Have an other account for buyingm this should also be mostly positives but you wont be afraid of taking a
negative as negatives only really count when you are selling (unless you have tons of them.
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ReMan
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| posted on 13/8/04 at 10:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Skirrow
I have had tit for tat negative feedback but I wear it with pride, the people who usually give it are idiots and any buyer reading your negative and
your logical, factual response can see that you are not in the wrong, especially when they read the other guys feedback and the see he has a string of
negatives all saying similar to yours.
One way to sort of defeat the system is to have 2 accounts, one for selling, which you should always get positive for if you are not a conman, you can
build up your positive feedback on this one. Have an other account for buyingm this should also be mostly positives but you wont be afraid of taking a
negative as negatives only really count when you are selling (unless you have tons of them.
You`ve done this before hav`nt you A man to my own heart!
The real annoyance to me at the moment is getting the T**T to respond to me at all. Email, phone,phone with message, phone, phone engaged, phone not
answered etc...... At least when he admits he is a country member and the item I won fair and square is not available (coz he sold it elsewhere and
ebay was an emergency back up at a guess, or he`s p****d because he put no reserve and it didn`t reach a price he wanted), I can get on and start
pursueing another. Otherwise, theoretically, (as ebay again works in the sellers favour and advises against), I could win another similar item and
then the first one miraculously come knocking for payment in a debatably "reasonable timeGRRRRRRRRR
Sorry if i`m ranting, its not often I rant!
I spend most of my days seeing the best in people and got caught out here I fear!!!! But at this rate the MK Indyblade is going to be an MK
IndyC50!!!
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Skirrow
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| posted on 14/8/04 at 01:09 AM |
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IIRC both parties have to have been in contact within 3 days. If it's been longer than a week or so then I would send him a polite email saying
that as he hasn't been in touch you can only assume that he no longer want to trade, give him a negative and be prepared for your negative in
return.
Alternatively, you can contact him through square trade, basically you fill in some online forms and they attempt to contact him via email for you.
They can't really do anything you can't do yourself but I have had some success with it as some people get scared by the formal nature of
it and answer you. Also its on record of you tryng to contact him if you complain to eBay.
[Edited on 14/8/04 by Skirrow]
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JoelP
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| posted on 14/8/04 at 08:21 AM |
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i've had this before, when i won a zx9 cdi for £16. i couldnt believe how cheap it was, and i think the guy didnt want to sell it. I started
looking for another and he then answered my mails, lo and behold it actually arrived! not tested it yet but thats damn cheap for a cdi.
anyway, i would give him 14 days to be polite, then your -ve feedback can say '14 days and no contact'. Provided you get your feedback in
first, it will be clear you are the injured party.
remember, feedback can be removed. hence you could neg him and leave a phone number in the feedback so he can ring you, complete the sale and have the
feedback withdrawn. Sounds daft, but in reality who else will actually ring the number? if he gets funny, its back to plan A (the one involving a
dentist).
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