MikeCapon
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 07:15 AM |
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Fixing workbenches to breezeblock wall?
As above I have two 5 metre long benches made from 30x30x2 box section which I need to fix securely to a breezeblock wall. The building is pretty
recnet so the blocks are fairly thin walled (<20mm) which makes fixing tricky.
I don't really want to use chemically fixed studs, particularly as one bench is fixed to two walls at right angles. Using studs will not be
possible in this case.
Any offers of advice most gratefully recieved...
Thanks,
Mike
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stevegough
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 07:36 AM |
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Spreading plates - metal - or wooden rails eg 3x2s - on the other side of the wall bolted through will probably be the strongest way.
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 07:43 AM |
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how about thickness near the ends of the blocks?
Maybe masonary screws??
http://www.screwfix.com/c/screws-nails-fixings/masonry-hex-head/cat840196
But I would be inclined to fix wood to the wall first, then get the bench fixed to that where you want to.
Surely this is a common issue in France? they seem to build out of flowerpot blocks?
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 07:44 AM |
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Thanks for that idea Steve. Sadly the other sides of the walls are either impossible to get at (steel cladding on the outside) or walls that I really
don't have the right to drill holes in (neighbour's workshop!).
Can you get female threaded inserts for chemical fixings?
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 07:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
how about thickness near the ends of the blocks?
Maybe masonary screws??
http://www.screwfix.com/c/screws-nails-fixings/masonry-hex-head/cat840196
But I would be inclined to fix wood to the wall first, then get the bench fixed to that where you want to.
Surely this is a common issue in France? they seem to build out of flowerpot blocks?
Thanks cliftyhanger. Good idea to aim at the joints. I'll likely give that a go if I cant find anything else.
The concrete screws are probably excellent if you've got concrete to go in to. In my case all I have is the thin wall of the breezeblocks.
I'm going to look and see if I can't find a female threaded chemical fixing..
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BenB
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 08:18 AM |
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I'd go for the max overkill approach.
Chemical stud bond a nice big bit of 2*1 along the wall (including the return) using quite a few fixing points to spread to load and then mount the
workbench to that with some big old screws.
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owelly
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 08:35 AM |
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Anchor-bolts or resin-boltd to the floor, then the wall fixingd are not to critical so a batten with resin-bolts, then screw to that.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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wilkingj
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 09:08 AM |
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+1 for load spreading plate of (ply?) wood (very Locost  ) with multiple small fixings to the wall.
Then fix bench to that.
Floor Bolts are good too, as long as the legs of the bench are substantial as well.
Either that or just a tube of No-Nails! That will fix anything 
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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nick205
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 09:18 AM |
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Weld on some decent sized foot plates and bolt to the floor wood be my thoughts - avoid the wall issue altogether.
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Peteff
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 09:44 AM |
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Are they Breeze blocks or concrete blocks ? If they are concrete blocks you will be fine to anchor to them by any normal method. Breeze is a lot less
common than concrete as it is expensive.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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designer
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 11:25 AM |
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Hi Mike
A basic rule of workshops is that you should never fasten a bench to a wall, any decent bench should be heavy enough to support itself.
If you must, a few brackets with decent sized screws are enough.
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Phil.J
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| posted on 1/2/12 at 03:27 PM |
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As others have said, fix the legs to the floor with Rawlbolts. Triangulate the legs if needed to give maximum stiffness.
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 4/2/12 at 01:35 PM |
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Thank you all for your input. Got the job done by using 8mm studs chemically bonded onto the walls. The one stud at a right angle that would have
rendered the bench impossible to remove was fitted using an open slot thus enabling me to slide the bench in and out of place as I need to.
Nice bench though. 10 metres long should be enough even for me...
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stevegough
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| posted on 4/2/12 at 02:08 PM |
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10 metres isn't a bench, its a PIER !!
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 4/2/12 at 09:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
10 metres isn't a bench, its a PIER !!
Just enough to really have room to work.
Pics coming... I promise. 
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