steve m
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| posted on 9/11/12 at 08:02 PM |
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Woman reported for summons
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-20271788
Had she hit one of our family members, she would of gotten away with it!
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mookaloid
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| posted on 9/11/12 at 08:16 PM |
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Oh I don't know Steve, I suspect that in a situation like that where a cyclist is injured it is a requirement to involve the police and if the
motorist is found to be at fault then they are highly likely to be reported.
On the other hand if it had been a motorcyclist that had been driven into by a car and put into hospital then the driver is very likely to get away
with it 
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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britishtrident
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| posted on 9/11/12 at 09:14 PM |
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My first thought given the time of day was a certain person may have been cycling without lights.
[I] What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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scootz
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| posted on 9/11/12 at 09:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve m
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-20271788
Had she hit one of our family members, she would of gotten away with it!
How so!!!???
It's Evolution Baby!
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steve m
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| posted on 9/11/12 at 09:47 PM |
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As it wouldnt of made headline news, thats why!
and to throw a spanner, in, how do we know SHE was the guilty party
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scootz
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| posted on 9/11/12 at 09:57 PM |
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It's a reportable road accident and an injured party spent a night in hospital. If there's evidence to prosecute, then very likely
someone would be going to court (whether it was a member of your family that was involved... or Bradley Wiggins).
As for 'how do we know she was the guilty party'. There is, as yet, no guilty party. Only a court will decide if there is one!
Furthermore, how do we know anything about anything if we weren't there to see it ourselves!!!???
Paranoid... much???
It's Evolution Baby!
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bi22le
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| posted on 9/11/12 at 11:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
My first thought given the time of day was a certain person may have been cycling without lights.
And I speculate probably at a serious rate of knots!!
Track days ARE the best thing since sliced bread, until I get a supercharger that is!
Please read my ring story:
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Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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slingshot2000
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 12:21 AM |
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Drugs?
Which one of them?
Were either made to give a blood sample?
£3million a year ?
Am going to edit/regret this tomorrow?
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 08:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by slingshot2000
Drugs?
Which one of them?
Were either made to give a blood sample?
£3million a year ?
Am going to edit/regret this tomorrow?
Possibly! Do let us know lol 
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britishtrident
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 08:58 AM |
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Chuckle ;-)
[I] What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 09:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
It's a reportable road accident and an injured party spent a night in hospital. If there's evidence to prosecute, then very likely
someone would be going to court (whether it was a member of your family that was involved... or Bradley Wiggins).
As for 'how do we know she was the guilty party'. There is, as yet, no guilty party. Only a court will decide if there is one!
Furthermore, how do we know anything about anything if we weren't there to see it ourselves!!!???
Paranoid... much???
I think that you will find that for the past year or so, the law has been changed and in ANY collision between a car and a bike the LAW now deems the
motorist responsible, end off.
Here we go, all been discussed before, this should cover it. linky to
previous discussion
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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scootz
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 09:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jollygreengiant
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
It's a reportable road accident and an injured party spent a night in hospital. If there's evidence to prosecute, then very likely
someone would be going to court (whether it was a member of your family that was involved... or Bradley Wiggins).
As for 'how do we know she was the guilty party'. There is, as yet, no guilty party. Only a court will decide if there is one!
Furthermore, how do we know anything about anything if we weren't there to see it ourselves!!!???
Paranoid... much???
I think that you will find that for the past year or so, the law has been changed and in ANY collision between a car and a bike the LAW now deems the
motorist responsible, end off.
Here we go, all been discussed before, this should cover it. linky to
previous discussion
Utter nonsense!
It's Evolution Baby!
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 11:34 AM |
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Indeed utter nonsense. As a keen cyclist AND car user it makes me chuckle to see everyone on the car forums saying they were probably cycling without
lights and too fast and everyone on the bike forums saying the drivers were blind and stupid as usual.
The truth will probably be a bit of both, there's not enough respect for other road users and the rules on either side of the invisible,
non-existant fence.
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Dusty
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 12:40 PM |
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I wonder if she saw him and but thought,
'Bike - 8 mph - 100yds away - tons of time - pull out - bang - WTF - how was I to guess he was doing 40 mph'
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 12:44 PM |
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No, she just claimed she didn't see him. As most unobservant road users claim when they pull out on you, but I must admit it's not unusual
for car drivers to claim "you're riding too fast" when I yell at them for pulling out on me when I'm doing just 20mph.
"I don't expect bikes to be doing more than 10mph" was one claim. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to respond to that sort
of brain-dead comment, so it just got a shake of the head.
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Simon
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 12:48 PM |
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I suspect BW had lights on - even if he disagreed with them, his personal insurance policy would prob require it so would his public liability
insurer, his employer would require it (bear in mind we are talking of a pro cyclist whose livelihood depends on him being able to cycle) and I
suspect he was given some quite nice lights for nowt.
As for her, she pulled out of a petrol station she has no excuses other than not looking - ie driving without due care and attention.
Funnily enough, the day before, I was driving to work and an oncoming Corsa went into a nice pirouette. Got closer and another woman had pulled out of
a different petrol station straight into the side of said Corsa.
ATB
Simon
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 12:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jollygreengiant
I think that you will find that for the past year or so, the law has been changed and in ANY collision between a car and a bike the LAW now deems the
motorist responsible, end off.
Here we go, all been discussed before, this should cover it. linky to
previous discussion
Amazing how Internet forums can turn vague suggestions/proposals into law! And not sure how mentioning it once in a thread about cycle insurance
counts as 'all been discussed before'.
From:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/public/cyclesafety/article3451896.ece#
quote:
Mike Penning, the Road Safety Minister, said that the Government would not change the law. Making a motorist automatically at fault for an accident
with a cyclist, unless he or she can prove otherwise, would be unfair where someone is driving entirely responsibly or when there is an accident
where no one is to blame,
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 03:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve m
As it wouldnt of made headline news, thats why!
and to throw a spanner, in, how do we know SHE was the guilty party
Just because it would not have made the headlines, it doesn't mean the driver wouldn't be prosecuted. If someone gets injured in a
road traffic collision, then it has to be reported and ultimately it's the CPS decision to bring a prosecution if there is sufficient
evidence.
There must be thousands of drivers that get prosecuted every year without reaching the headlines.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 10/11/12 at 03:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
No, she just claimed she didn't see him. As most unobservant road users claim when they pull out on you, but I must admit it's not unusual
for car drivers to claim "you're riding too fast" when I yell at them for pulling out on me when I'm doing just 20mph.
"I don't expect bikes to be doing more than 10mph" was one claim. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to respond to that sort
of brain-dead comment, so it just got a shake of the head.
My favourite is "You came out of nowhere". Apparating out of thin air is a pretty tricky thing to do; not bothering to look for other
road users seems a far more likely explanation!
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