mcerd1
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 02:52 PM |
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OT - Wall hung WC frames ?
can anyone recomend a decent but locost frame and/or cistern ?
also I've got a limited height to hide it in due to a window and sink so the more options the better....
the prices I've seen so far are scarry 
if I can get this sorted I'm one big step closer to being allowed back in the garage 
cheers
-Robert
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nick205
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 03:23 PM |
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Does it have to be wall hung?
When I looked at doing it (purely for aesthetic purposes) it looked a right palava, with brackets and frames etc.
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r1_pete
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 03:24 PM |
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Wouldn't a close coupled bog and cistern be cheapest? and most height efficient.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 03:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
Wouldn't a close coupled bog and cistern be cheapest? and most height efficient.
Wickes do a decent compact "Toilet to Go" --- it is neat looking and has a very effective flushing action.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Slimy38
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 03:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
Wouldn't a close coupled bog and cistern be cheapest? and most height efficient.
Wickes do a decent compact "Toilet to Go" --- it is neat looking and has a very effective flushing action.
I think that's what we have, I did initially think it would stick out from the wall too far (compared to our previous wall mounted council-house
special) but it's surprisingly compact. We just had to buy a new toilet seat, it came with a really crappy (no pun intended) plastic jobby that
would not have survived my a$$.
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v8kid
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 04:00 PM |
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I've been looking at this and the prices are terrifying.
However the frames all seem to be the same standard and B&Q with the old fartz discount is the cheapest frame and cistern I've found so
far.
The plan is to couple it up to a fancy pan.
There is a problem with the pushbuttons as all the ones I've seen are cheap plastic - even the boutique expensive stuff and I'd rather
have solid SS.
Cheers!
You'd be surprised how quickly the sales people at B&Q try and assist you after ignoring you for the past 15 minutes when you try and start a
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 04:04 PM |
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I've been looking for the same thing, since the base of our toilet pan is smashed (there's too much balance involved to keep it upright
when performing). Scary prices.
Never considered a frame unit though, but how that would cope with obese visitors??... mind you, with mine it's pretty academic, the bathroom
isn't big enough for the obese to function (as are most rooms these days).
I do like the idea that you can clean up the overspray easily with nothing on the floor.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 04:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Does it have to be wall hung?
no, but wall hung fits the grand plan better 
I'm prepared for a small extra cost, but I'm not going to hand over £250 for a frame/cistern (the recommended ones)
I've seen other frames with cisterns for as little as £95 - but I've no idea what makes a good or bad one ??
a "back to wall" type one is the backup plan - but it still needs a cistern...
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 04:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
Wouldn't a close coupled bog and cistern be cheapest? and most height efficient.
Wickes do a decent compact "Toilet to Go" --- it is neat looking and has a very effective flushing action.
I think that's what we have, I did initially think it would stick out from the wall too far (compared to our previous wall mounted council-house
special) but it's surprisingly compact. We just had to buy a new toilet seat, it came with a really crappy (no pun intended) plastic jobby that
would not have survived my a$$.
The supplied toilet seat is pretty horrid and plasticy for want of a better word, we we first moved in to our then brand new house we had real
problems get toilet seats that would last, usually the hinges either started wobbling or corroded or just accumulated crap, eventually we
discovered the very cheapest IKEA basic white toilet seat is really good quality and costs buttons.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 07:09 PM |
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Cant go wrong with a standard close coupled WC from Screwfix. i used to fit loads of them when i was plumbing. Frankly i used to talk everyone out of
wall mounted loos, they are more expensive to buy, a PITA to fit and can be a real PITA when they go wrong.
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macc man
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 08:24 PM |
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Try the Frontline Range. Not Mega bucks and does the job. Have fitted a few and no problems to date. If you know some one in the trade they can get
you a good discount.
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daviep
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 09:32 PM |
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Couple of bits of RHS or angle and make one, that's my plan as I have the same problem regarding lack of height, either that Thomas dudley do a
frame for mounting the WC only without a built in cistern.
Cheers
Davie
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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Barkalarr
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| posted on 19/2/13 at 11:35 PM |
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I'm having mine done at the moment with exactly that - wall frame mounted toilet.
The plumber built a box in front of the window and has hidden everything away.
Will ask the plumber what the make of frame he's put in.
It came from Graham's plumbers merchant
Apparently you can fix water problems from the front of the frame.
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Mikef
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| posted on 20/2/13 at 06:26 AM |
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If you are gOing to do it do it properly. I bought a couple of cheap frames and cisterns, looked great but been nothing but trouble. Paid a bit more
for some Geberitt and they have been perfect. try talking to www.bathroom2u.com best pricesand very helpful.they do a very big range.
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Macbeast
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| posted on 20/2/13 at 10:27 AM |
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Why did I read that as " Well-hung " ?
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/2/13 at 10:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mikef
....Paid a bit more for some Geberitt and they have been perfect.....
even the smallest Geberitt one won't work with my plan 
infact the shartest ones I've seen anywhere are 790mm min. height
often its not the cistern itself thats in the way but the flush / access pannel is just a bit too high and I don't really need that big flush
panel style for the access as the whole front can come off mine instead
I guess I could buy a frame then modifiy it, but I don't fancy chopping up something I just spent £250 on
quote:
Originally posted by daviep
Couple of bits of RHS or angle and make one, that's my plan as I have the same problem regarding lack of height, either that Thomas dudley do a
frame for mounting the WC only without a built in cistern.
I'll look into the Thomas dudley frames, but I'm starting to think
I'll need to make my own to get what I want...
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been doing some more measuing....
ultimately what I would like to make is basically the same as this, but with a wall hung toilet:
the front of the unit will be tiled, but will sill have the removable panel with the flush off to the side like in the pic
the top will span the width of the room, be ~40mm think and has the sink on top of it
this gives me 665 to 720mm height under the top to fit everything else in... any thoughts ?
also who makes a good cistern that will fit the bill ?
[Edited on 20/2/2013 by mcerd1]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 20/2/13 at 11:34 AM |
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Different strokes for different folks, but to my eyes that isn't aesthetically pleasing that is is without even considering the other
downsides.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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daviep
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| posted on 20/2/13 at 12:05 PM |
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You are entering a world of conflicting reports regarding concealed cisterns, I spent ages reading forums and product reviews and learnt pretty much
nothing. In the end I went for THIS as I wanted a small single flush
button. Can't comment on operation as I haven't gotten round to fitting it
Cheers
Davie
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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Barkalarr
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| posted on 20/2/13 at 12:25 PM |
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This is what we've just had fitted (not used it yet) - plumber has one at home reckons they're the business ! (only know that cos
he's a m8)
Would show you the fitted item, but it's just a blank wall.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/2/13 at 12:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Barkalarr
This is what we've just had fitted (not used it yet) - plumber has one at home reckons they're the business ! (only know that cos
he's a m8)
thats the first kind that was recommended to me - they look good but they arn't cheap and just a bit too tall aswell
(the one you have is the smallest version - I need one 100 to 150mm shorter)
but if you've got any more pics of it as its installed (before its covered over) it would help me with some of my planning
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/2/13 at 01:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Different strokes for different folks, but to my eyes that isn't aesthetically pleasing that is is without even considering the other
downsides.
it will look better than that
just using that pic as an example of the height/construction method I'm looking for
the front will be tiled with these:
and the worktop will be this: (with lots of waterproof vanish!!)
with the removable panel joint hidden between the tiles (ie. no grout on one line - got a few ideas for this to hide it better, but I'll need to
try them first....)
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mcerd1
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| posted on 13/3/13 at 01:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daviep
....Thomas dudley do a frame for mounting the WC only without a built in cistern.
cheers for that - they look ideal for me
been doing lots of reaserch but I've still got an issue with the cistern height
the other sizes don't matter much, but it needs to be as low as possible
the best I've found so far is the Dudley 'miniflo' - its 276mm high + 90mm (min) to the ctr of the flush pipe and thats just about
good enough
but idealy I need to loose another 60mm - even 25mm less would help though
any thoughts ??
[Edited on 13/3/2013 by mcerd1]
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