teegray19
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 02:14 PM |
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racetec DASH2 Pro
Im going through all the ideas for a dash and come across the DASH2 which looks a great bit of kit.
shame about the price!? what i need will be £750ish + 8 senders at between 50-£100 each.
can anyone get deals on this stuff?
Built Formular 27 with 1600cc crossflow, 1700cc 0 miles crossflow, Kawasaki ZZR1100
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Benzo
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 02:32 PM |
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Why not buy stack at that money?
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teegray19
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 02:44 PM |
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looking at both, the racetec one comes out on top, its just stupid they don't sell them with the sensors included!
Built Formular 27 with 1600cc crossflow, 1700cc 0 miles crossflow, Kawasaki ZZR1100
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Benzo
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 02:47 PM |
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I have a contact that does the Stack for around £680-700 Road going model including all the senders if you would like the details drop me a mail.
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jeffw
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 04:22 PM |
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The Race Technology Dash 2 Pro (not not racetech....different company) will work with your own senders so I'm not sure where the £100 per sender
comes from. What are you looking to measure?
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daniel mason
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 04:28 PM |
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And why do you need the pro version?
Or do you need data logging
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teegray19
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 05:06 PM |
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I want the pro for the 8input lines, it's a new build so I don't have any senders at the moment! Just like spa race technology offer high
accuracy senders, the only type I will use now after using them on the spa gauges.
Data logging, Ecu and EFi functions are on next years list, so dash2 pro is what I'm after.
Built Formular 27 with 1600cc crossflow, 1700cc 0 miles crossflow, Kawasaki ZZR1100
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matt5964
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 05:28 PM |
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I got mine at the autosport show last year direct from Lawrence, got a deal better than anywhere else worth the trip down
Luego velocity XT 2.0ltr 221.3bhp 178.9lbft
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jeffw
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 05:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by teegray19
I want the pro for the 8input lines, it's a new build so I don't have any senders at the moment! Just like spa race technology offer high
accuracy senders, the only type I will use now after using them on the spa gauges.
Data logging, Ecu and EFi functions are on next years list, so dash2 pro is what I'm after.
The Race Technology senders are only accurate as they are configured on the Dash 2 Pro software from the factory. You can use any sender if you know
what the resistance is at a specific temp (assuming Temp sender or pressure if a pressure sender and so on). It is easy enough to map the senders and
program the Dash2. I did this with Ford units on my Dash2.
I've got Oil Temp, Oil Pressure and fuel level analogue inputs, everything else is read from the ECU.
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jeffw
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 06:03 PM |
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Also most of the Race Technology senders are £30 + Vat...
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teegray19
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 06:25 PM |
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Il be reading boost pressure, oil pressure, fuel pressure, do you have the links to those for £30?
Built Formular 27 with 1600cc crossflow, 1700cc 0 miles crossflow, Kawasaki ZZR1100
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mackei23b
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 06:51 PM |
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I've got a dash2 on my Caterham, I'm not using any of the race technology senders, as mentioned in an earlier post as long as you know the
voltage or restistance curves you can use any sender and programme the unit.
Cheers
Ian
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gavin174
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 09:34 PM |
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send Eddie99 a u2u
he is a race technology dealer....
he had one for sale here...
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=194425
he is out of the country at the moment but I believe he has internet access
http://www.essexkitcarclub.com
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rodgling
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 10:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by teegray19
Il be reading boost pressure, oil pressure, fuel pressure, do you have the links to those for £30?
Yeah, I'm using these with a dash2pro to do oil and fuel pressure:
100psi Pressure Transducer or Sender for Oil,Fuel,Diesel,Gas,Air,Water Pressure
they work fine. Interesting to note that they look identical to the race tech ones which sell for £120! For temperature and so on, as Jeff says,
I'm just using the stock engine sensors (BMW in my case).
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teegray19
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 11:53 PM |
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interesting!
thanks to all for the input, i have emailed eddy and watching the senders on the bay.
Built Formular 27 with 1600cc crossflow, 1700cc 0 miles crossflow, Kawasaki ZZR1100
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jeffw
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 07:49 AM |
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So you are only looking to use 3 analogue inputs, not sure why you want to upgrade the unit to 8. Remember Speed and RPM are done separately.
Boost will be from the Map Sensor
From Race Technology £80 +VAT
http://www.race-technology.com/air_pressure_2_69.html
Oil Pressure
http://www.race-technology.com/content.php?pcat=2&cat=67
Oil Temp
http://www.race-technology.com/oil__water_temperature_2_65.html
This site has lots of information on how to use existing sensors on the Dash2 (will work as well with the Dash2Pro)
http://westfield-world.com/rtdash2.html
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teegray19
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 07:57 AM |
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I will need,
water temp
voltage
oil pressure
oil temp
Boost pressure
Fuel pressure
Boost temp after inter cooler
And for future developments of the car...
Il have a look over the senders, if the software can calibrate that's great. Although they will offer a good offer on the senders when bought in
a package.
Built Formular 27 with 1600cc crossflow, 1700cc 0 miles crossflow, Kawasaki ZZR1100
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jeffw
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 08:00 AM |
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What ECU are you using? You can get a lot of the information you are looking for from the ECU and not have to run two lots of sensors. Voltage comes
from the supply to the Dash2Pro so you don't need to do anything else there.
Water Temp, inlet temp & boost pressure would typically come from the ECU (mine does) which leaves you with
Oil Pressure
Oil Temp
Fuel Pressure (do you want this on the display or simply have a gauge on the fulel like I do?)
Fuel Level (?)
[Edited on 16/11/14 by jeffw]
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teegray19
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 08:08 AM |
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It's CDI ignition so no Ecu being used this year.
Does your dash2 show fuel level aswell? Level and pressure would be good on it.
I basically want it to handle all my inputs this year on one dash.
Built Formular 27 with 1600cc crossflow, 1700cc 0 miles crossflow, Kawasaki ZZR1100
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jeffw
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 08:12 AM |
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This is a screenshot of the configuration program for the Dash2Pro. You will see it is comprehensive.
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jeffw
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 08:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by teegray19
It's CDI ignition so no Ecu being used this year.
Does your dash2 show fuel level aswell? Level and pressure would be good on it.
I basically want it to handle all my inputs this year on one dash.
What engine are you using?
You can use any analogue input you can think of so Fuel Level and Fuel Pressure is no problem.
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teegray19
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 08:36 AM |
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Looks impressive!
Zzr1100 engine, il most Lilkly use emerald k6 next year. Pocket doesn't alloy so this year though.
So blow through carbs and CDI for now.
Do you still need a speedo heale or can you modify signals with the program?
Built Formular 27 with 1600cc crossflow, 1700cc 0 miles crossflow, Kawasaki ZZR1100
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jwhatley
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 08:53 AM |
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Ditch the speedo pickup and use a wheel speed sensor, if you have a sierra rear hub, they pick up off the hub studs. You can either wire it in
directly to the dash, or depending on your ECU input it to the Ecu for future launch control and logging.
Like jeff has said, if you get all the sensors for the engine and run them to the Ecu, you can then pick up all the data off the Ecu with the CAN
datalink. Leaves you with minimal wiring going to the dash that way. And no need for duplicate sensors/wiring.
John
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jeffw
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 09:11 AM |
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I use the GPS as the speedo....I have a hall effect sensor but it is a pain to setup with the English Axle. The GPS works fine although it
isn't likely to pass IVA
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eddie99
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| posted on 16/11/14 at 02:25 PM |
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Email replied to, Happen to have a Dash 2 Pro & GPS & CAN sat in the workshop surplus to requirements if its of interest.
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