swanny
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| posted on 11/2/22 at 09:26 AM |
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garage door change
Hello all,
so my locost has been booted out of the family garage and into a concrete rented one. the old garage has been chopped in half with half becoming
utility room and half bike store.
It still has the up and over door which means I cant put any wall cupboards on the side walls The garage was tiny so my massive bike needs to go
upright so back wall is used.
I want to change to side hinged doors and then buy some second hand kitchen cupboards for the walls to store tools in etc. but new garage doors are
ridiculously expensive . (this is locostbuilders after all!)
I'm trying to figure out a way to get two opening side hinged doors, that will need minimum maintenance without spending loads.
I've been looking online at second hand old garage doors and people seem to want 100 quid for fundamentally rotten old doors. Its also a small
opening so lots of the doors are likely to need so much cutting down that i'd end up having to rebuild the door pretty much and i don't
fancy that.
The only other idea I've had is to pick up some composite fence boards and make the doors from them. they do seem to pop up when someone has
ordered too many etc?
any other ideas?
thanks
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nick205
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| posted on 11/2/22 at 10:20 AM |
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Similar issue here.
Integral garage converted to a an extra bedroom as a cheaper alternative than moving house. 6 foot of garage space remains with an Up n' Over
door preventing wall cupboards to the side.
My neighbours either side have replaced their Up n' Over doors with more ££££ electric roller doors. Very nicey, but very pricey. Alterations
to their house wiring to power the doors, but minimal space taken up by the doors when rolled up (open).
Do you need full width and height access?
If not could you board off the current doorway and fit a man size access door, big enough to get you and a bike through?
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swanny
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| posted on 11/2/22 at 10:24 AM |
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i did wonder about that, but but given the space inside and the fact all of the family have bikes that they need to access, only having one door would
mean lots of shuffling around of bikes in a very tight space
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SteveWalker
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| posted on 11/2/22 at 10:45 AM |
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For my garden gates (full height across a driveway, at the side of a house, so very similar to garage doors), I bought steel angle, welded up two
rectangles, each with a flat, diagonal strap to prevent sagging and then infilled them with tongue and grooved wood.
It wasn't cheap, but I know that it is solid, the ends of the grain are protected from rain by being inside the angle and they they should last
a long time.
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BenB
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| posted on 11/2/22 at 12:35 PM |
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Unless it's a roller door can't you side hinge the up+over door?
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macc man
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| posted on 11/2/22 at 12:54 PM |
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Have you tried Howdens Joinery. I changed the existing rotten doors at my in-laws house and they were not that expensive.
I am going back about 4 years ago but might be worth a shot.
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 11/2/22 at 01:39 PM |
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I built a garage at the side of the house and already had a detached garage as well. The detached one has an up and over door and means no kitchen
units on the wall so with the new one I fitted a standard roller door by Gliderol. It was made to measure and cost £315. I got it from an online
supllier and it included delivery. The rolled door only takes up about 14" from the front and leaves lots of room for wall units. As it has a
sloping roof to the house there is lots of high up space in mine so they are effectivly in the area where a loft would be if not for the high ceiling.
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Partofthechaos
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| posted on 11/2/22 at 01:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ianhurley20
I built a garage at the side of the house and already had a detached garage as well. The detached one has an up and over door and means no kitchen
units on the wall so with the new one I fitted a standard roller door by Gliderol. It was made to measure and cost £315. I got it from an online
supllier and it included delivery. The rolled door only takes up about 14" from the front and leaves lots of room for wall units. As it has a
sloping roof to the house there is lots of high up space in mine so they are effectivly in the area where a loft would be if not for the high ceiling.
I second this, found it was the best option for me. Not sure if it is locost enough for your application, but the additional ceiling storage even
with a flat roof was very useful. Also better placement of lights even with the door open, I can park cars right up to the door and still open it, I
can open the door with open cupboard doors right next to it etc. It said it needed 2 people to instal, but I did it on my own without too much
hassle. Looks smart, its secure as there is no handle or lock.
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ianhurley20
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| posted on 12/2/22 at 09:28 AM |
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Quote - its secure as there is no handle or lock.
On mine there is no handle but there is a lock which is operated with a key, just don't leave the key in the lock when you roll the door up (you
only get half a key back when you roll it down  )
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wonderfulweasel
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| posted on 12/2/22 at 12:10 PM |
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I’m another with a roller shutter. It’s great as it takes up so little space in my puny garage!
I bought it online with delivery and fitted it myself. I thought it was good value at the time (a few years ago now).
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jacko
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| posted on 13/2/22 at 08:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
Unless it's a roller door can't you side hinge the up+over door?
What a great idea and a lot lighter then wood boards or plywood
Graham
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swanny
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| posted on 14/2/22 at 11:28 AM |
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off to look at howdens and glidrerol thanks all.
I did wonder about side hinging the existing door. my only doubt was that adding enough of a frame to the door (so it wouldn't sag/distort) and
also beefing up the existing on the garage opening itself. Might be worth a try though as its effectively a free option first
Paul
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nick205
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| posted on 14/2/22 at 12:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by swanny
off to look at howdens and glidrerol thanks all.
I did wonder about side hinging the existing door. my only doubt was that adding enough of a frame to the door (so it wouldn't sag/distort) and
also beefing up the existing on the garage opening itself. Might be worth a try though as its effectively a free option first
Paul
If you fit diagonal braces across the inside of the door that should stop it sagging and help stiffen it. Think how a 5 bar farm gate is made with 5
horizontals and a diagonal brace.
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McLannahan
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| posted on 14/2/22 at 01:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by swanny
off to look at howdens and glidrerol thanks all.
I did wonder about side hinging the existing door. my only doubt was that adding enough of a frame to the door (so it wouldn't sag/distort) and
also beefing up the existing on the garage opening itself. Might be worth a try though as its effectively a free option first
Paul
If you fit diagonal braces across the inside of the door that should stop it sagging and help stiffen it. Think how a 5 bar farm gate is made with 5
horizontals and a diagonal brace.
If the drive is suitable (paved/tarmac etc..) then perhaps a small roller on the bottom of the door might assist too?
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nick205
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| posted on 15/2/22 at 08:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by McLannahan
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by swanny
off to look at howdens and glidrerol thanks all.
I did wonder about side hinging the existing door. my only doubt was that adding enough of a frame to the door (so it wouldn't sag/distort) and
also beefing up the existing on the garage opening itself. Might be worth a try though as its effectively a free option first
Paul
If you fit diagonal braces across the inside of the door that should stop it sagging and help stiffen it. Think how a 5 bar farm gate is made with 5
horizontals and a diagonal brace.
If the drive is suitable (paved/tarmac etc..) then perhaps a small roller on the bottom of the door might assist too?
Good call - like a little jockey wheel type thing. Gives the door some stability as it opens/closes to help prevent sagging.
swanny - remember to add a drop bolt between door and floor to keep the door open as well. Nothing worse than a door blowing closed on you while
you're getting your stuff in/out.
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Nicolett
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| posted on 7/4/22 at 12:34 PM |
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Well! this looks like an interesting idea for me, and I would probably made the same if I would not have a place to live, but I would pay really good
attention to the safety, as seems to me this construction is vulnerable to any burglar. Thin walls, this windows and I don't know what I can say
about the front door. I would install some security cameras around to keep an eye on my property anytime I need, I would also secure the windows with
some motion sensors and of course I would install some secured locks, maybe even a smart lock. I am currently using a smart lock at my flat, honestly
this thing keeps surprising me, I can track who entered the door and who left the home, I can open it via card or via fingerprint. The hardest thing
about this smart lock was the installing process as I am not a specialist in this field. But
locksmith manor park made it easily, and it
took around 25 minutes. The locksmith also made me a quick hands on, and left me his number in case I would have any other questions.
[Edited on 7/4/22 by Nicolett]
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indykid
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| posted on 7/4/22 at 01:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolett
Well! this looks like an interesting idea for me, and I would probably made the same if I would not have a place to live, but I would pay really good
attention to the safety, as seems to me this construction is vulnerable to any burglar. Thin walls, this windows and I don't know what I can say
about the front door. I would install some security cameras around to keep an eye on my property anytime I need, I would also secure the windows with
some motion sensors and of course I would install some secured locks, maybe even a smart lock. I am currently using a smart lock at my flat, honestly
this thing keeps surprising me, I can track who entered the door and who left the home, I can open it via card or via fingerprint. The hardest thing
about this smart lock was the installing process as I am not a specialist in this field. But locksmith made it easily, and it took around 25 minutes.
The locksmith also made me a quick hands on, and left me his number in case I would have any other questions.
[Edited on 7/4/22 by indykid]
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Nicolett
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| posted on 7/4/22 at 01:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by indykid
quote:
Originally posted by Nicolett
Well! this looks like an interesting idea for me, and I would probably made the same if I would not have a place to live, but I would pay really good
attention to the safety, as seems to me this construction is vulnerable to any burglar. Thin walls, this windows and I don't know what I can say
about the front door. I would install some security cameras around to keep an eye on my property anytime I need, I would also secure the windows with
some motion sensors and of course I would install some secured locks, maybe even a smart lock. I am currently using a smart lock at my flat, honestly
this thing keeps surprising me, I can track who entered the door and who left the home, I can open it via card or via fingerprint. The hardest thing
about this smart lock was the installing process as I am not a specialist in this field. But locksmith made it easily, and it took around 25 minutes.
The locksmith also made me a quick hands on, and left me his number in case I would have any other questions.
[Edited on 7/4/22 by indykid]
You have something to say?
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indykid
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| posted on 7/4/22 at 01:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolett
quote:
Originally posted by indykid
quote:
Originally posted by Nicolett
Well! this looks like an interesting idea for me, and I would probably made the same if I would not have a place to live, but I would pay really good
attention to the safety, as seems to me this construction is vulnerable to any burglar. Thin walls, this windows and I don't know what I can say
about the front door. I would install some security cameras around to keep an eye on my property anytime I need, I would also secure the windows with
some motion sensors and of course I would install some secured locks, maybe even a smart lock. I am currently using a smart lock at my flat, honestly
this thing keeps surprising me, I can track who entered the door and who left the home, I can open it via card or via fingerprint. The hardest thing
about this smart lock was the installing process as I am not a specialist in this field. But locksmith made it easily, and it took around 25 minutes.
The locksmith also made me a quick hands on, and left me his number in case I would have any other questions.
You have something to say?
Ooooooh, it depends. Is your next post going to be trying to sell cheap smart locks?
Since we're having such a nice chat, what car are you building, anyway?
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Nicolett
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| posted on 7/4/22 at 01:39 PM |
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Did I even tried to sell something? Can you show me a link or something?
Did I ever told I am building a car? What's wrong with you kiddo!
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