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Chris_R

posted on 24/7/05 at 03:52 PM Reply With Quote
VW Expert Required

Right. Having bought a 1993 8V Golf GTi and having had it on the road for less than a week, the oil seal in the dif has gone. Bugger!

It looks to be leaking from the off-side driveshaft and I'm a bit stuck. From what I remember VW fitted 'sealed for life' boxes to some Golf's which you're not supposed to be able to maintain, fluidwise. Mine's got a drain plug on the bottom, but I can't find any way of filling it. Anyone got any experience? Think it's an 020 CHE box if that helps.

I'd also like to change the seals but am again stuck. Haynes are useless and dedicate only 4 pages of the book to the Golf's manual transmission. I did have some similar work done on a MKII some time ago and from what I remember a manufactures tool was required to refit the driveshaft flanges, any one know if that's also true for the MKIII boxes?


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Chris.





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posted on 24/7/05 at 04:04 PM Reply With Quote
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pajsh

posted on 24/7/05 at 04:23 PM Reply With Quote
I'm no expert but I have a 1989 Scirocco which has a similar 020 5 spd gearbox. The drain plug is under the bottom of the diff/gbox and the level plug is around the side. It also has a plastic filler plug on the top.

My Haynes manual give fairly detailed information on replacing the drive flange oil seals in the drive shafts section Chapter 7. This involves using a made up tool (bit of threaded bar and a piece of flat) to relieve the tension on the circlip that holds in the coil spring assembly. You have to remove a cap to access the circlip.

After the flange is removed the seal can be levered out and renewed.

Hope this helps.

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Chris_R

posted on 24/7/05 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks guys.

Pajsh, which maual are you using? I've got the 3097 VW Golf & Vento one, with little info, and the 1081 VW Golf & Jetta which has the homemade tool solution.

Other thing is, is this the filler plug and if so have you used it? Rescued attachment filler_800x605.jpg
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omega 24 v6

posted on 24/7/05 at 06:04 PM Reply With Quote
I ain't a vw man but i would say that was a gearbox vent myself.
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pajsh

posted on 24/7/05 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
My 'box looks slightly different but should be similar enough.

My Haynes manual is 1224 but it only goes up to 1990. I agree that what you have shown is a vent and my 'box has one in exactly the same place.

The filler is a plastic screw in plug around 40mm dia with another loose plug pushed in the centre of it. I can't see his as the picture is from the wrong angle. I guess you mustn't have this as it is so big you can't miss it under the heater matrix return pipe. I have recently replaced mine and VW were not too sure on the part nr so I guess there are variations. Should be in the same sort of place though.

The Haynes manual actually shows topping up through the level plug which is on the end of the clutch release housing underneath. You need a very large hex drive for this but I think you should still have the filler on the top.

The drain is at the very bottom of the diff underneath. Mine is hidden by a larger than normal anti roll bar.

Hope this helps

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phelpsa

posted on 24/7/05 at 08:27 PM Reply With Quote
Pajsh, your sirocco is based on the Mk1 golf, which has a different 'box to Chris' Mk2.

Hope this can help a bit.

Adam






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rusty nuts

posted on 24/7/05 at 08:57 PM Reply With Quote
Think you will find the 40mm dia plastic plug is actually for using a diagnostic/digital ignition timing access point . Remove the plug and turn the engine round you will find the TDC mark on the edge of the flywheel . Putting gear oil in at this point will cause clutch problems. The gearbox oil level plug is usually on the end of the gearbox , use a 17mm allen key type removal tool to take it out
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Chris_R

posted on 25/7/05 at 05:01 PM Reply With Quote
Have set TDC by removing that plug on my old MKII as it lets you see the flywheel in the bell-housing. Can confirm that the oil level plug is on the near-side of the box, on the side, and the replacement proceedure for the drive flange oil seals are the same for the MKIII as the MKII.

£10 per seal so will prolly get it done over the weekend.

Cheers guys, big help.





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pajsh

posted on 25/7/05 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Rusty Nuts. I'm enlightened.

As I said I'm no VW expert.

I've have never put oil in the top plug and now I won't. Glad you put us straight.

Live & learn.

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