xxx
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| posted on 14/11/05 at 08:13 PM |
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Timing on a 1300 xflow
Hi guys ive got a problem at the moment with my 1300 locost, basically the distributor has worked its way loose and the timing is way off and hence
the car wont start. Can anyone explain a way of roughly setting up the timing just enough to get it started and to the garage to get it properly done.
I dont have a timing light!
I have tried to set it up at tdc at the cylinder closest to the front of the car and I got the flame throught the carb (like the rover v8 in the other
thread). Have i used the wrong cylinder?
Many thanks
Colin
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gary gsx
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| posted on 14/11/05 at 08:21 PM |
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You will need to turn engine over to TDC you should also have a notch on the dizzy set so rotor arm is facing that this is no 1, you realy need too
take rocker cover and see what the valves are doing as it could be firing on 1 or 4.
So engine on TDC and dizzy on mark, And rockers rocking on 4 so you should have gap on both valves on 1 this is now firing on 1 just get the leads on
in order
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xxx
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| posted on 14/11/05 at 08:25 PM |
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Cheers, which one is 1 and which is 4? The one near the gear box or the one at the front of the engine? Does it depend on my cam?
Thanks again
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gary gsx
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| posted on 14/11/05 at 08:30 PM |
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Hi
One is at front water pump end, you also need too know what way your dizzy turns so you know were to start when putting leads on, hope this helps
Gary
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 14/11/05 at 10:22 PM |
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You don't need to take off rocker cover, just take out spark plug at front of engine, and follow instructions for rover engine, should get you
going?
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gary gsx
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| posted on 14/11/05 at 10:35 PM |
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how you going too tell what cylinder its firing on with out taking rocker cover off??
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jonbeedle
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| posted on 14/11/05 at 11:51 PM |
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It's all in the Haynes manual for the Escort mk2 but as I found out there's a misprint. It says that the rotor arm is at the 1
o'clock position when no 1 cylinder is at TDC. It should say 11 o'clock!
So I did mine as follows.
1.Line up the notch on the crankcase pulley on the front of the engine and make sure the rotor arm is at the 11 o'clock position. (The rotor arm
rotates anti-clockwise).
2.Now loosen the distributor and turn it until the points just begin to open. You can check this more accurately if you connect a bulb across them
with the ignition on. The bulb should light as the points open, (I used a 12v neon screwdriver tester instead of a bulb but it's the same thing
really).
3.Tighten up the distributor, job done, piece of cake!
Make sure you have your leads connected right. The firing order is 1243.
By the way, take out the plugs so that you can turn the engine over by hand.
Cheers
Jon
[Edited on 14/11/05 by jonbeedle]
"Everyone is entitled to an opinion however stupid!"
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jonbeedle
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| posted on 15/11/05 at 12:04 AM |
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I forgot to mention, you need to run it with the air filter on or you will get blow back through the carb. Once I fitted my airfilter (K&N) it
ran fine. I ran it for a while with the standard filter as well with no problems until it fell off and it started spitting back through the carb with
the odd flame or two!.
Cheers
Jon
"Everyone is entitled to an opinion however stupid!"
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DavidM
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| posted on 15/11/05 at 12:38 AM |
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You need to set timing to about 10 degrees before top dead centre for a 1300 HC from Nov 1977 onwards.
Jon is right about the 1 o'clock/11 o'clock thing, but I believe that if you start with the rotor at 1 o'clock it will rotate to 11
o'clock as you push the distributor fully in. Actual distributor position is not that critical. If you are running unleaded you may need to
retard further 3 degrees, although there should be no need with super unleaded.
David
Proportion is Everything
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jonbeedle
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| posted on 15/11/05 at 08:31 AM |
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If you set it to the correct timing mark I think that is the correct number of degrees before TDC. With this set and the rotor arm at 11
o'clock, the no 1 cylinder should be approaching TDC on the compression stroke.
I run my 1300 xflow on normal unleaded and the timing is set up to the Haynes manual and it runs as sweet as a nut.
Cheers
Jon
"Everyone is entitled to an opinion however stupid!"
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xxx
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| posted on 15/11/05 at 02:03 PM |
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Thanks a lot guys! Ill give it a go when i next get a min!
Cheers
Colin
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