stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 14/2/03 at 10:50 PM |
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a way to beat speed cams
dont try this at home but it seemed to work for this guy I saw.
driving past a cam - the type that has a sensor cut into the road as a loop - the guy 2 cars in front was slow, so twat boy in front of me overtakes
in a 30 zone, lots of parked cars.
I actually wanted the cam to get him.
However, it didnt. I recon that the sensor only works on the side of the road the cam is facing. I know there are sensors on the other side BEHIND the
cam so it can get the next car that speeds past from the other direction, but of course by then its gone by on the other side of the road.
So, perhaps if you speed on the wrong side of the road and miss the loop you get away with it.
Or was he doing 29.99 mph as he passed that point.
anyone wanna test this out ? 
atb
steve
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 14/2/03 at 11:22 PM |
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There is a section of the A30 between Hayle and Camborne called the Big Dipper. It comprises about 1/2 a mile downhill section of 3 track road
(priority up hill) followed by 1/2 mile uphill (again up hill).
The **** have just fitted gatzo's on the down hill sections from both sides over two lanes so the uphill inside lanes are not covered by the big
ruler markings.
The other day a smoothie in a big silver new merc was overtaking me giong north, as we entered the getcha zone we both anchored up for the cameras,
once passed we both floored it, now approaching the next markings, me OK in the inside lane and matey, the phone in one hand and a cigar in the other,
in the outside lane. I got to 90 in the safe inside lane and Herman now doing 100+ hit the markings NO FLASH!
Do the cameras only get you from behind or are they not wired up?
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chrisg
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| posted on 14/2/03 at 11:34 PM |
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of course the flash on the "Truvelo" boxes is infra-red and not visible, is it one of those?
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Macca
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| posted on 14/2/03 at 11:57 PM |
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Do the cameras only get you from behind
They can ONLY get you from behind as far as I know,which isn't very!
Col
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 15/2/03 at 11:09 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
of course the flash on the "Truvelo" boxes is infra-red and not visible, is it one of those?
Cheers
Chris
i have seen a truvelo go off (not on me thankfully) in early evening, from the other side of the m25. They let of a kinda purple flash.
the truvelo ones in northants seem to be triggered by a wire loop in the ground about 5 metres in front of the cam - there are NO white markings.
There is usually TWO loops, one each half-side of road, so they can turn cam around to do either lane. However, matey boy didnt go over the camera
facing loop - he went over the one on thother side of tut camra (sorry, I slipped into northern ) thats behind the cam unless its facing that
way.
would be interesting to cover up plates at 2.30 am and try it out......
better still, anyone have the reg number of considerably's rolls royce (only joking!)
atb
steve
[Edited on 15/2/03 by stephen_gusterson]
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 16/2/03 at 04:44 PM |
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I see some wag in the freebee paper this weekend reckons that the £2000 reward for blowing up that camera on the 604 should be given to the
perpetrator.
Hear Hear I say.
Good article just a shame that the author hasn't the b*lls to reveal themselves.
enjoy.
[Edited on 16/2/03 by jollygreengiant]
[Edited on 16/2/03 by jollygreengiant]
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 16/2/03 at 04:54 PM |
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anyone got a link to that site that is devoted to smashin the iccle buggers up ?
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StuartA
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| posted on 17/2/03 at 05:14 PM |
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Came past the the ones on the Cambridge bound carriageway of the A14 between Huntingdon and Cambridge the other day and noticed someone had helpfully
covered the lens of one up, and another was pointed skywards. 
Unfortunately another two or three still along that stretch. 
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 17/2/03 at 11:25 PM |
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although I have been caught twice speeding in the last 3 years, and I hate speed cams, I can support them in some areas.
The thrapston / p'boro road is a death trap. Where there is a big risk of death and speed is a factor, then its silly not to use them.
what I object to is the bastards hiding mobile sped vans just around a corner where its not particularly dangerous.
northants has 7 of these evil devices.
who ever blew up that camera is an idiot.
Think of the way the law looks at different ways of trashing a cam.
1. use explosives. Probably a few years in prison cos they are emotive and could kill or maim a passer by.
2. burning it down. Arson. Probably anopther couple years in jail.
3. Pull it down with a truck or hacksaw the cam off. lots of community service, big fine, small possibility of jail. Criminal damage.
given consiracy to cause explosions, arson or criminal damage, he chose the highest risk option!
atb
steve
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B3Saxo
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| posted on 18/2/03 at 12:53 AM |
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Try this one.
(see)X51 HX(you)!
The seargent's wife's car! he he!
Another quality post from B3Saxo!
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kingr
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| posted on 18/2/03 at 11:59 AM |
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Unfortunately, it's now not possible to (legally) get plates without a v5 to back you up.
Kingr
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Findlay234
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| posted on 18/2/03 at 12:07 PM |
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firstly.... get some old plates from the scrappies.
also.... on clarkson series meet the neighbours(the one about our euro friends) i think he met up with the leader of the tuf tuf club. this is a club
in holland (where gatzos were invented BTW) and they do destroy gatzos and warn people about where mobile cameras are. www.tuftufclub.com i think,
just search on google for tuf tuf club. there must be a uk version somewhere, but i guess theyre not gonna advertise the fact.
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kingr
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| posted on 18/2/03 at 12:13 PM |
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Incidentally, I'm 99% certain that standard speed cameras don't work when you are coming toward them. Truvelo on the other hand are specifically
designed to get you coming toward them (get the face of the driver so they can't say it was someone else when they're on their last chance) they'd
have to use seperate loops for either side of the road, or else two cars going in opposite directions could trigger it, and with enormous speeds.
there's nothing to stop them from putting four loops in to cover all eventualities.
Couple of ideas for anarchy :
Get a nitro powered radio controlled car and rant that past the camera several times until the film runs out.
Get an old knackered motorbike, fit some sort of very long kill cord, jam the throttle open and let it just run past the camera at full speed.
Riderless motorbike breaking the speed limit, that'll freak them out. Have to be very careful with this one though, would want an uncontrolled
motorbike hurting anyone.
Kingr
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philgregson
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| posted on 18/2/03 at 02:25 PM |
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There was a craze recently of kids tying tins of beans to bits of rope and whizzing them round fast adjacent to a speed camera - Thiss will aparently
set them off so that it will take a photo of your mates bearing their arses further down the road. How purile eh!!
A good speedcam site is (believe it or not)
http://www.speedcam.co.uk
The dutch group are very active. I saw a figure quoted somewhere that 25% of dutch cameras are 'inactivated' every year.
Due to derbyshire police's new found delight in persecution, via the use of cunningly placed mobile traps in and around the peak, and the rest of
derbyshire, there might just be a few of these appearing in the near future.
Mr X
[Edited on 18/2/03 by philgregson]
 
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 18/2/03 at 07:22 PM |
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when I have been to get plates at halfords, they dont take your name or anything and need no proof of what you want made up.
caravan shops sell stick on letters and REAR plates....
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PHULL
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| posted on 19/2/03 at 01:23 PM |
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dumpsters
I remeber once we stole a dumpster very early in the morning to set of the loops on the road, and we pushed it into the intersection lol of corse we
set it off
would have looked funny when the police review the photos
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JohnFol
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| posted on 19/2/03 at 05:42 PM |
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ditto Steve's experience, however the one in Winnersh wanted V5, so drove to Bracknell where it was "no questions"
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 19/2/03 at 11:51 PM |
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Just to put you all in the picture like. The government screwed up big time on the legislation and the time frame required. So the motor trade as a
whole got caught with its nickers down on this one because no one really understood the implications as far as the retail end requirements. (Not even
the AA {garage services side}). so a suspension until the end of (I believe) February was brought in. The requirement is that basically if you make or
supply a number plate or components there off you WILL need to see proof of entitlement to those plates (V5 or similar), you must see proof of
identity (passport or similar) AND you must keep records for (again I believe) about 18/24 months. About 95% of the motor trade never really
understood the implications of this or just thought that it would not affect them. They were wrong.
So expect ease of number plate obtaining to get very difficult shortly.
Enjoy
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 20/2/03 at 12:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jollygreengiant
Just to put you all in the picture like. The government screwed up big time on the legislation and the time frame required. So the motor trade as a
whole got caught with its nickers down on this one because no one really understood the implications as far as the retail end requirements. (Not even
the AA {garage services side}). so a suspension until the end of (I believe) February was brought in. The requirement is that basically if you make or
supply a number plate or components there off you WILL need to see proof of entitlement to those plates (V5 or similar), you must see proof of
identity (passport or similar) AND you must keep records for (again I believe) about 18/24 months. About 95% of the motor trade never really
understood the implications of this or just thought that it would not affect them. They were wrong.
So expect ease of number plate obtaining to get very difficult shortly.
Enjoy
Still, not that hard.
1. steal someone elses plates.
2. make your own. we have skills to build the whol car, what degree of difficulty can it be to get a bit of coloured metal, some sticky numbers and a
plastic top coat.....
atb
steve
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Rorty
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| posted on 20/2/03 at 01:07 AM |
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All you have to do is obtain the mirror of the required characters, at one of the sign shops that do computer cut vinyl graphics, and stick them on to
a peice of Perspex of the correct size, then cover that with some yellow/white vinyl.
When viewed through the Perspex, it'll look perfect.....except at night!
"Neber dunt before Occifer!" 
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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john_s
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| posted on 25/2/03 at 12:05 AM |
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This "need a V5 to get a log book" idea seems fine in theory, but my new car is on contract hire, so i won't have a V5 for it.
However i feel that "Sorry occifer, i can't replace my broken number plate because they can't / won't sell me one!" won't save the fine / points
/ whatever i'd get should i have a cracked plate.
John.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/2/03 at 12:26 AM |
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i am in same situation re company car.
im sure some kinda system will be worked out - its no harder than taking a 'producer' to a police station
atb
steve
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philgregson
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| posted on 25/2/03 at 09:56 AM |
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This system was put into place I presume to try and prevent the criminal element putting false plates on stolen cars, commiting crimes with gohst
plates on vehicles etc and if they do at least being able to trace the plates.
Ha! What a load of b****cks!!!
Do they really think that Mr Criminal is going to think ' Oh dear I am going to have to give up crime now so that I don't get into trouble for
obtaining a false number plate without the correct documentation.' No he isn't is he.
If hae wants false number plates he will get them - he has the contacts, the resources and the necessary contempt for the law.
The only people who are going to struggle and get nicked are the likes of us normal law abiding citizens for whom the simple act of buying a new
number plate has now become a load of beurocracy.
Picture the following scenario:
Driving home on Friday evening through the peak and a lump of rock falls off a passing quarry wagon and breaks my number plate (as has happened).
I go to a purveyor of fine number plates to replace it like the law abiding citizen that I am but:
I've got no V5 cos it is a company car and on lease hire.
I have no passport beacuse my mortgage company have got it to prove that I'm not a money launderer before giving me a remortgage (despite having had
a mortgage for the last ten years).
I have no driving license 'cos DVLA have it to remove some spent points.
On Saturday I get done for having no number plate.
On Sunday the police come to see me as a car of identical description (with a cloned number plate) has been involved in a robbery in Bolton. 'It
must have been you sir beacuse only you can buy a number plate for your vehicle'
NO I F****ING CAN'T YOU T**T!!
Another law that has no effect what so ever except to cause more trouble for the law abiding citizen.
Phil
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Spyderman
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Agreed pointless beaurochrasy(?) and control over the masses.
Another problem that will arise from it is the theft of number plates from parked vehicles to go onto stolen cars etc.
Example; steel car in town A, go to town B and steel number plate from similar car. Use car for crime and blame goes to unsuspecting owner of missing
No plate, who probably hasn't noticed that plates are missing yet. Or if he has, he can't replace them.
Number plates will be stolen to avoid all sorts of things like avoiding speeding tickets or even congestion charges.
Whereas in the past criminals would simply have made up a ficticious number and had it made, now there will be a market for stolen number plates and
may have made things far worse because children or young upcoming criminals are ideal for obtaining the plates.
Or am I just being paranoid?
Terry
Another thought!
Surely this will criminalise all the people who like me have an old number plate from a car or bike they used to own. By no longer being the
legitimate owner of said registration, the only purpose for keeping it would be to use it for crime (in the eyes of the law).
I better keep the garage door shut in case I get mistaken for a chop shop!
[Edited on 25/2/03 by Bull]
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/2/03 at 07:10 PM |
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i recon its for speed cams.
it stops you from making false plates to confuse them.
Just imagine if you have a red escort.
someone borrows your plates. puts em on their red escort Does 12 laps of the m25 at 140 mph.
goes back to your car and puts em back.
how ya gonna explain that away when the 'its you if you cant give us a name' form comes in the post for 68 offences.........
atb
steve
[Edited on 25/2/03 by stephen_gusterson]
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