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zxrlocost

posted on 8/5/06 at 07:48 AM Reply With Quote
can anyone think of a good V8

Im looking for a reliable/powerful V8

as IM going to buy one of Keith kirks Viper GT2 Kits when I move house in 6 weeks

can anyone recommend one powerful reliable and not mega £

The rover V8 is still tried and tested isnt it but would it look right or is there better options

ta chris

PS did anyone take any pics of Venoms XJ220 replica was it any good

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ned

posted on 8/5/06 at 07:55 AM Reply With Quote
LS1

or perhaps a european engine might be cheaper from a donor eg bmw, audi or jap such as lexus/toyota but beware the wires

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Johnmor

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:07 AM Reply With Quote
V8

If its got to be V8, then the Rover is the easiest to obtain and tune.

Any engine from cars in the last few years will have real wiring problems potentially, (as mentioned).

But there are some smart guys on this site who could help with wiring probs.

German (BMW and Merc) are pretty heavy unless you go for recent alloy blocks, but the wiring problem kicks in.

What about a V6!!!

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bimbleuk

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:07 AM Reply With Quote
Like what Ned said the LS1

Simple design but with modern parts and materials. Plenty of power to start with tons of options for upgrades. Easy to buy as a crate engine including all the transmission bits as well. Only the price will stop you

Most Euro/Asian V8s use complicated valve trains and electronics which isn't really needed in a light weight kit car.

L1s will rev to 7000RPM, do you need to go higher in a V8?

[Edited on 8/5/06 by bimbleuk]

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britishtrident

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:26 AM Reply With Quote
Ford Mustang V8 from the Rover 75 V8 -- be warned though it is a lot bigger than the 1960s Ford 260/289 V8 used in the Sunbeam Tiger and Cobra 289
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zxrlocost

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:31 AM Reply With Quote
ok Im about to do a search but is an LS1 a corvette engine?

ta chris

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Syd Bridge

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
The quad cam 32valve Ford Cobra engine would be fantastic. Leave off the emissions gear and they are near 400hp out of the box.

For a man on a budget, Ford or Chevy small block. Spend what you would to get 300hp out of a Rover on either of the USA lumps, and you'll have 500-600. Spend half the Rover budget, and you still get a useable 300~350hp.

Gearboxes are easy to get too, as are parts.

Why waste money on anything else??

Cheers,
Syd.

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zxrlocost

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:36 AM Reply With Quote
so the ford or chevy engine seem the ones

whats the ford engine out ouf??

thanks

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zxrlocost

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:41 AM Reply With Quote
this one seem any good

what are they worth

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Chevy-Chevrolet-V8-LS1-Engine-and-6sp-Gearbox_W0QQitemZ4637910813QQcategoryZ100921QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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zxrlocost

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
oh sorry the ford engine is actually in a cobra?

not any other models

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Syd Bridge

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:53 AM Reply With Quote
Cobra V8 is used in the usa Mustang Cobra. Also in the MG supercar thingy, and I'm told is used in some late jags.

Sold new as a 'crate' engine in the USA for $6K +/-

Cheers,
Syd.

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zxrlocost

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
ok ill have a search now


thanks chris

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Bob C

posted on 8/5/06 at 09:28 AM Reply With Quote
While Syd's right about power levels, you pay a serious weight penalty on a US iron block pushrod V8. The ford mustang engine may be preferred for its compactness but weighs about a hundredweight more than the rover.
I've seen lists of weights on the web, you should be able to find good data. The 4.6 RV8 I made for my mx5 weighed 130kg with flywheel but no alternator, starter or manifolds (just on the limit for my bathroom scales...)
Once you take the engine weight over RV8 levels you're into serious beefing up of chassis, suspension and brakes which adds more weight and increasing difficulty to the project.
cheers
Bob

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Bob C

posted on 8/5/06 at 09:29 AM Reply With Quote
oh yeah - anything with overhead cams is going to be physically bulky, hard to fit in...
Bob

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Johnmor

posted on 8/5/06 at 09:35 AM Reply With Quote
Audi

There is a complete Audi 3.7 v8, with all ancillarys on Ebay,
All alloy, must be good for 300BHP.

Sitting at about £450, so far, delivered, Not bad.

Gerbox may be an issue!

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awinter

posted on 8/5/06 at 12:07 PM Reply With Quote
porsche 928

If you can find one, crop up on ebay.

Quite a big lump though.

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flak monkey

posted on 8/5/06 at 12:16 PM Reply With Quote
useful link for you for v8 stuff and engines:
http://www.britishamericanengines.co.uk/





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http://www.motosera.com

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zxrlocost

posted on 8/5/06 at 01:16 PM Reply With Quote
ok cheers everyone
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wildchild

posted on 8/5/06 at 02:03 PM Reply With Quote
Ford DFV?
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greggors84

posted on 8/5/06 at 04:23 PM Reply With Quote
If your going for a Viper Replica how about a V10? Will be harder to find, but alot more authentic then putting a V8 under the bonnet. Big BMWs and Mercs use them, sure i have seen some on ebay before.

P.S. Have you got any pics or website for this Viper Replica?

[Edited on 8/5/2006 by greggors84]





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Wadders

posted on 8/5/06 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
This might be a good place to start digging for infohttp://www.v-8.org.uk/forum/default.asp
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Simon

posted on 8/5/06 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
Agree - LS1

Posted this before, but

http://www.chevroletls1.com/chevrolet_ls1_6_info.html

The (Mustang) V8 engine from the R75 only has an auto box/and from the ZT260, manual. It's a huge lump. I've stuck my 260 next to Deimos and compared. Bear in mind if looking for a donor 75/ZT, that there's about 700 ZT's and a couple of dozen 75 V8. So you be better off looking elsewhere.

ATB

Simon

[Edited on 8/5/06 by Simon]






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coozer

posted on 8/5/06 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Have a butchers at this: Crate engines for the masses....

http://www.high-performance-engines.com/highperfengines.html

Cheap as chips and all brand new! Even old skool 70's V8's BRAND NEW!!

Ya just canna whack a Chevy!!

Forgot to mention I've got a nice 5 speed box thats just up to the job as well!

[Edited on 8/5/06 by coozer]





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Pezza

posted on 8/5/06 at 10:14 PM Reply With Quote
I must say if I was going down the v8 route I would plumb for a small block ford or chevy everytime.
They sound astounding with the bigger capacity, and they work out a hell of a lot cheaper to tune than the rover v8's which are still a bit pricey parts wise to my mind.
The money you will spend getting a rover to 350 ish will see you to 500 easy on a big yank lump, and the agricultural style engineering will last you longer too.
muscle car = yank everytime.





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zak

posted on 9/5/06 at 01:27 AM Reply With Quote
lexus v8, factory six bolt mains, rod bolts are the weakest link swap those and is good 600hp. N/A easy 350 - 400hp. or whack a couple of turbos on the sides and the sky is the limit.

[Edited on 9/5/06 by zak]

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